Update On Ontario Restricted Transfer Times

9host said:
Bureaucracy and automation do not mix. I'd imagine also, that the system they are working with is probably a legacy system developed from who knows when. Probably involves both paper and electronic entry, maybe an abacus and likely some sort of written/stamp approval from someone specific.
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I won't be surprised if it's running in a simulated DOS environment or something in that realm.
 
machohugeaxe said:
I think its safe to assume that unless 1. they go to batch processing, 2. other provinces help out, 3. more staff is hired, we're looking at a year+ wait on some transfers. The logic is that 1. they had a running backlog even before panic buys, 2. more than a year's worth of guns have sold in the last couple of months, it would make sense that unless something happens to speed it up, transfers initiated mid-late june will take that full year or more. Given bureaucracy's slowness to implement any kind of change, I've kind of resigned myself to a long wait. By the time the complaints result in some sort of change, half the transfers will be done and we'll be in the next year already...
I'm just going to spare myself some anger. Hate the game not the player.
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I ordered a Wrangler and a Glock 20 last year from G4C, both were shipped together, ironically enough just left in the parcel section of the Mail Boxes across the street with no signature required. I didn't think about it or notice at the time, but on the weekend I was cleaning out the filing cabinet, though I was missing one of my Original Certificates from the CFO, turns out both on those were approved at the same time, and on the same sheet.

So it seems they batched those 2, last year, maybe it was just because it was the same buyer and same seller for both, but if they could do it then, there is no reason they can't now.
 
Made a new purchase this morning reference #5991###, dealer told me roughly 65 days for the transfer to be approved. Seems optimistic to me but I thought I should pass along the info.
 
NorthernExposure said:
Made a new purchase this morning reference #5991###, dealer told me roughly 65 days for the transfer to be approved. Seems optimistic to me but I thought I should pass along the info.
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lol you can add a 3 in front of the 65 at the rate we're going. I'm just going to pretend I didn't purchase anything, that way when it arrives it'll be a pleasant surprise.
 
9mmGunGuy said:
There may be a magic wand involved as well. :stirthepot2:
Actually bureaucracy is ideal for automation.
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I should clarify, bureaucracy and automation SHOULD mix, however I don't think that is what bureaucrats "want". They sure don't want to be automated out of a job.
 
Tegridy Farms said:
I ordered a Wrangler and a Glock 20 last year from G4C, both were shipped together, ironically enough just left in the parcel section of the Mail Boxes across the street with no signature required. I didn't think about it or notice at the time, but on the weekend I was cleaning out the filing cabinet, though I was missing one of my Original Certificates from the CFO, turns out both on those were approved at the same time, and on the same sheet.

So it seems they batched those 2, last year, maybe it was just because it was the same buyer and same seller for both, but if they could do it then, there is no reason they can't now.
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I received a transfer notification by email from the CFO of Ontatio on June 24 and June 28 for 2 separate purchases made on May 30. On July 5 the RCMP dated and mailed the Firearms Registration Certificate with both guns on the same piece of paper. I received it in the mail July 12 about a week after they mailed it. A few days later I received a new RPAL card with .0003 license number change and a paper with new ATT conditions. The Expiry date did not change.

That means the Ontatio CFO DID NOT batch process my transfers but the RCMP DID batch my registration certificates.
 
Wolf said:
Stitching your 2 post together, I assume we have approval of 5891650 on Aug 9. This means we have had around 75 approvals again for last week or so, so we should have another 2 to 3 weeks of June 1st initiated transfers. There is hope :)
Seems like I also had a typo for May 31 transfer # that I corrected (5890300 not 5893000 :( ), I do apologize.



Here is updated chart based on new data:
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I wish nothing more than for this chart to be false lol but I get this feeling your right
 
Wolf said:
Stitching your 2 post together, I assume we have approval of 5891650 on Aug 9. This means we have had around 75 approvals again for last week or so, so we should have another 2 to 3 weeks of June 1st initiated transfers. There is hope :)
Seems like I also had a typo for May 31 transfer # that I corrected (5890300 not 5893000 :( ), I do apologize.



Here is updated chart based on new data:
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Are you saying 75 approvals for the whole week or per day? I'm afraid to hear the answer...lol
 
Hrsplit said:
I wish nothing more than for this chart to be false lol but I get this feeling your right
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I share your feeling, and I wish I am wrong. I started this to have an idea when to expect my own transfers, but thought I share this here. if current rate of transfers does not change, this chart could be correct :(
 
MethodTAG said:
I received a transfer notification by email from the CFO of Ontatio on June 24 and June 28 for 2 separate purchases made on May 30. On July 5 the RCMP dated and mailed the Firearms Registration Certificate with both guns on the same piece of paper. I received it in the mail July 12 about a week after they mailed it. A few days later I received a new RPAL card with .0003 license number change and a paper with new ATT conditions. The Expiry date did not change.

That means the Ontatio CFO DID NOT batch process my transfers but the RCMP DID batch my registration certificates.
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I see, so mine wasn't necessarily batched, the federal level of the process just decided to make things easier on themselves.
 
Mr Wolf. Thank you for the chart. I find it interesting. And I believe your numbers will improve over the next month.
 
So if they're doing 75/day as it looks and there are 2 people doing the transfers (I think someone said this earlier in the thread?) That would mean each person is doing 37-ish/day or about 5.2 transfers per hour in a typical work day when you account for lunches/breaks.....so each transfer is taking around 11-12 mins to complete.
 
TBois said:
So if they're doing 75/day as it looks and there are 2 people doing the transfers (I think someone said this earlier in the thread?) That would mean each person is doing 37-ish/day or about 5.2 transfers per hour in a typical work day when you account for lunches/breaks.....so each transfer is taking around 11-12 mins to complete.
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That's optimistic. Factor in they have bathroom or smoking breaks, probably no overtime, email management, union meetings, sensitivity and anti-harassment training to take, etc. etc. that all distracts them from productivity. They are probably also teleworking.
 
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