Update On Ontario Restricted Transfer Times

RL1 said:
No i understand the gist.

My understanding of the process, based on a post on another forum is:

The CFP

  • Verifies the address of the buyer and seller
  • Verifies licence status of buyer and seller
  • Queries FRT to verify info about the gun (e.g. that it is not prohibited)
  • Queries the registry to trace the origin of the gun (e.g. that it is not lost or stolen)
  • Submits the application to the CFO for approval
Then the CFO

  • Verifies the buyer is a club member in good standing (in most provinces)
  • Approves the transfer
After which it goes back to the CFP to

  • Update the registry
  • Send notification to the buyer and seller
  • Send reg cert to the buyer
  • Issue STATT
  • Issue LTATT


so once again the suggestion is to batch by buyer....and again i raise the issues i mentioned earlier. If you bought 5 guns before me and 5 after me, a "batch" transaction (assuming it can even be done) would mean you get all 10 of yours before i get my 1...and even though processing your 1 batch may be faster than doing it 10 individual times, it will still take longer than a single transaction

but again, is it even possible? since the CFO needs info from the CFP for each transaction, what if the CFP has only processed 5 out of your 10 purchases? how can the CFO then batch them?
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Conservatively, most buyers have bought 3+ guns since the announcement. Batch processing 10 does not take 10 times the effort or time. Not even close. All provinces except QC and ON moved to it weeks ago because of the time savings and cost reductions. It's a total no brainer. If everyone before you in line was batch processed, you would get your gun faster because of the efficiency gains.
 
B@K3R said:
I've heard from the CFO 150 is a big push day but typically 50/75 a day average.
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Then maybe the CFO isn't getting 1/3 of the transfers as they claim.

My math is pretty simple: divide the (difference in reference numbers from two different days) by (days between 2 approved transfers minus 2 days for every 7 day period), and divide that by 3 for 1/3 volume. I will provide an example later.

Eduardo said:
Gezuix, mine is around 6007###, I think the Easter bunny is bringing it to me!!! :)
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Is it from August 22nd? and what's the 5th digit?

1northernboy said:
If the CFO office in Ontario is controlled by the OPP, then why aren't we writing complaints to the OPP Commissioner? Maybe if enough of us suggest to batch our transfers to efficiently speed up the process (like the other provinces), we may get our approvals faster!!!
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CFO is not run by the OPP as far as I'm aware, but it's usually staffed by people who used to work for the OPP.
 
Claven2 said:
Conservatively, most buyers have bought 3+ guns since the announcement. Batch processing 10 does not take 10 times the effort or time. Not even close. All provinces except QC and ON moved to it weeks ago because of the time savings and cost reductions. It's a total no brainer. If everyone before you in line was batch processed, you would get your gun faster because of the efficiency gains.
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All other provinces have moved to batch transfers?

Well shame on ON and QC for not following suit to expedite transfers & clear backlogs!
 
Jay said:
All other provinces have moved to batch transfers?

Well shame on ON and QC for not following suit to expedite transfers & clear backlogs!
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I bought 4 on June 8, all approved after 3 weeks. Bought 2 more on July 8 - ZERO. But I think I am luckier than most.

That is BC. I guess it is vacation time.
 
mactroneng said:
Then maybe the CFO isn't getting 1/3 of the transfers as they claim.

My math is pretty simple: divide the (difference in reference numbers from two different days) by (days between 2 approved transfers minus 2 days for every 7 day period), and divide that by 3 for 1/3 volume. I will provide an example later.



Is it from August 22nd? and what's the 5th digit?



CFO is not run by the OPP as far as I'm aware, but it's usually staffed by people who used to work for the OPP.
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I'm not sure who the grunts are, but the CFO himself is an OPP Superintendant.
 
I did a panic buy an June 1st, I bought several pistols from the same retailer. The retailer had lots of orders that day and it took them 2 weeks to get me the first reference number. It then took them several weeks to get a reference number for the rest of my orders. My question is why can't the CFO see that I purchased several firearms from the same retailer and approve them all at once? If I am approved for the first one, I will be approved for all of them eventually!!
 
swiftability said:
Because it is not their problem and nobody'll give them extra hands knowing that most likely the transfer business will stop soon. They're wrapping the business up, why would they care about service time?
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The cfo doesn't. But one would think the ford government doesn't want to be associated with passport canada-like ineptitude and would force the cfo to hire some temp help or something?
 
Claven2 said:
The cfo doesn't. But one would think the ford government doesn't want to be associated with passport canada-like ineptitude and would force the cfo to hire some temp help or something?
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I emailed Ford on this and just the canned reply, more people need to complain about the lack of service and the long wait times getting into the phone service...

on a side note, got in today right at 9, after calling all day yesterday with nothing but hang ups.

60089xx is the current number being doled out... it is going to Alta thou...9 numbers were issued between my two transfers from my first number to the second transfer... so they are busy on the phones...
 
Outlawpilots said:
This process reminds me how ridiculous the attack on LEGAL gun owners is! By comparison, here's the alternative process:

* Gangbanger A gives gangbanger B money
* Gangbanger B gives gangbanger A gun
* Gangbanger A sticks gun in underwear
* Gangbanger A freely carries and uses gun unopposed at their (reckless) discretion!

Yeah, WE'RE the problem!
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You left out the part where Gangbanger A posts a pic of himself on social media holding/pointing the gun sideways.
 
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nitroxace said:
I just looked at the TACCOM exhibitor's list and it looks like the Ontario CFO is going to have a booth there. It should make more a few interesting conversations.
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So more transfer delays as they prepare? Have to get all their, non answer, answers prepared for the questions, and gather all the smoke they'll need to try and blow up people's behinds.
 
Tegridy Farms said:
So more transfer delays as they prepare? Have to get all their, non answer, answers prepared for the questions, and gather all the smoke they'll need to try and blow up people's behinds.
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Every single person going should be stopping by and making it clear that they need to start getting help and doing batch transfers. What they are doing is unacceptable
 
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