UPDATE: Rossi Ranch Hand Mares Leg

Can-down said:
If his sights were dead on as is.... he will need to drift either the front or rear sight a hair in it's dovetail to make up the difference.

Drift equals secure the barrel against something solid like a block of wood and then hit the sight with a hammer and a punch made of brass or hardwood.

It's not rocket surgery!
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Andy (at Skinner's Sights) sent me a gorgeous brass punch designed specifically for drifting sights in dovetails. (It was a gracious goodwill gesture to compensate for an earlier shipping delay/error.) I love showing it to my "shooting- enthusiast" friends and challenging them to figure-out what the hell it is!

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If Tall Guy gets the rear sight properly centred, are you confident it will be at the same elevation that it was at when he got those good shooting results? Otherwise, drifting the front sight is a left-right issue, irrelevant to shooting high ... which is our challenge/concern.
 
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He could take a measurement or just eye ball it and make a reference mark on the sides and it should be pretty close for elevation next time he shoots......he may have to adjust the windage however as right now the micro adjustment blade is off center to the left. Moving it to the center(right) will shift the windage and require the rear sight to be tapped a hair to the left or the front sight to the right.

I have faith in Tallboy since he's already changed out the sight on his own and is the second person to report a ranch hand that shoots to point of aim!

Tall boy can you take a rough measurement of your front sight from the base of the dovetail to the top?
 
Hey Can-down, I measured the stock front sight at .402" and the Steves was a little tricky to measure mounted on the barrel. I had to eyeball it with the vernier caliper at .500"-.510".
Rear is now straight, just need to go shooting.:shotgun:
 
TA-DAAAA!
My new M92 Baby Carbine is almost ready for the range test.
I've switched out the lever and butt stock from my Rossi .44 Mag.
carbine and replaced the front sight with a .538" tall Marbles unit.
My Marbles Bullseye long rear sight should arrive soon from Brownell's.

I also spun up a hard brass follower for the magazine and replaced the
ejector spring with a Steve's Gunz unit.

I was on the list to get my new Ranch Hand from from Gary, but
scooped this .357 from a dealer in Edmonton after a guy mentioned
it on this thread. Sorry Gary, I was in a hurry to get this goody,
but I love my Rossi .454 Mag. that I got from you a few years back.
Keep up the good work & service to us Gunnutz!
BABYM92.jpg


Brass beats sh*t plastic any day!
RossiBrassFollower.jpg


The horrible appendage that came on this rifle got the treatment it deserved!
FB.jpg
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
TA-DAAAA!
My new M92 Baby Carbine is almost ready for the range test.
I've switched out the lever and butt stock from my Rossi .44 Mag.
carbine and replaced the front sight with a .538" tall Marbles unit.
My Marbles Bullseye long rear sight should arrive soon from Brownell's.

I also spun up a hard brass follower for the magazine and replaced the
ejector spring with a Steve's Gunz unit.

I was on the list to get my new Ranch Hand from from Gary, but
scooped this .357 from a dealer in Edmonton after a guy mentioned
it on this thread. Sorry Gary, I was in a hurry to get this goody,
but I love my Rossi .454 Mag. that I got from you a few years back.
Keep up the good work & service to us Gunnutz!
BABYM92.jpg


Brass beats sh*t plastic any day!
RossiBrassFollower.jpg


The horrible appendage that came on this rifle got the treatment it deserved!
FB.jpg
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Great looking gun!

Wanna make a few extra followers? Would it be cost effective to offer them to the few Ranch Hand owners?

Thanks
 
Nice work Mitchell....how well did the Marbles front sight fit? Is that a brass bead? What's the product number?

If anyone else is considering burning their mare's leg stock send me a PM....
 
Yo, Can-down,
G'Michell was commenting on MY build buy the way.
Sorry G'M, but I use the lathe at my buddies fab shop when he ain't too busy.
It took me about 1/2 hr. to make the part. If I had my own lathe, I'd make a whack
of these, but they would cost about the same as the stainless ones from Steve's
Gunz. Then there's the shipping costs.

Sad state of our school system is they dont teach basic metal workin' skills early
on. For shame!
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
Yo, Can-down,
G'Michell was commenting on MY build buy the way.
Sorry G'M, but I use the lathe at my buddies fab shop when he ain't too busy.
It took me about 1/2 hr. to make the part. If I had my own lathe, I'd make a whack
of these, but they would cost about the same as the stainless ones from Steve's
Gunz. Then there's the shipping costs.

Sad state of our school system is they dont teach basic metal workin' skills early
on. For shame!
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Nice work Shell Shucker....how well did the Marbles front sight fit? Is that a brass bead? What's the product number?

If anyone else is considering burning their mare's leg stock send me a PM....
 
G.Mitchell said:
Hey s.s didn't mean to steal your glory ;)

Yeah I think I will get a bunch of goodies from Steve just try to buy Canadian when I can. :)

Great looking gun btw.
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No worries G'M about stealing glory, you added to it. Nothing wrong with
putting up pics of cool guns.

To answer Can-downs question, the Marbles front sights on all my
Rossi rifles have a 1/16" brass bead. For my eyes, these are perfect.

One thing I've noticed on these newest Rossi M92's is that the
dovetails are now the correct size for American sights.
(No doubt due to input from Rossi USA.)
My sights tapped in without any final fitting and are properly snug.
I also noticed that the final metal polish and blue is not as good
as the earlier Rossi guns, but it's still decent.

Rossi still needs to address their wood selection and fitting issues.
Updating wood cutting tooling and going to a harder wood is needed.
Can you say...Laminate? That would be sweet.

That said, the Rossi M92's are great guns for the money and I will
definitely add more to the collection.
:cheers:
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
To answer Can-downs question, the Marbles front sights on all my
Rossi rifles have a 1/16" brass bead. For my eyes, these are perfect.

One thing I've noticed on these newest Rossi M92's is that the
dovetails are now the correct size for American sights.
(No doubt due to input from Rossi USA.)
My sights tapped in without any final fitting and are properly snug.
I also noticed that the final metal polish and blue is not as good
as the earlier Rossi guns, but it's still decent.

Rossi still needs to address their wood selection and fitting issues.
Updating wood cutting tooling and going to a harder wood is needed.
Can you say...Laminate? That would be sweet.

That said, the Rossi M92's are great guns for the money and I will
definitely add more to the collection.
:cheers:
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Thanks Shell Shucker, I agree on the wood and also your choice of a 1/16" brass bead.

Couple more questions for you....

Where did you order your Marbles from? Do you know the part # ?
 
To get these sights at a good price, start an account with Brownell's.
The front sight part # is 579-105-331 for the .538" high with 1/16" gold bead.
Be sure to specify USPS Priority shipping for quicker delivery.
For example, my latest order total was $22.76 for a front & rear sight set.
Total with shipping was 34.02 which ain't bad, which is way cheaper than Steve's Gunz
and delivers much quicker.
:dancingbanana:
 
Thanks. I've ordered a fair bit from Brownells but I don't know if I have an account....what's that involve?
 
When on the Brownell's site, hit the create an account button,then select what
you are, create a password and you're on your way.
Don't forget to Add a Buck to the NRA on each order. They like that.
;)
 
Rossi dovetail specs

Shell-shucker wrote ...

"One thing I've noticed on these newest Rossi M92's is that the dovetails are now the correct size for American sights. (No doubt due to input from Rossi USA.)

My sights tapped in without any final fitting and are properly snug. I also noticed that the final metal polish and blue is not as good as the earlier Rossi guns, but it's still decent."

I notice that Skinner's Sights in Montana (where I recently bought a rear peep for my Rossi) still mentions that there's one dovetail size for "Most Rifles", and another for Rossi rifles. They say .375 for "Most Rifles" and .390 for Rossi rifles.

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SS's observations are leaving me a bit confused. Can somebody explain? Could Skinner's Sights not be aware of the change, or could Shell-Shucker be mistaken, or is there a way they could both be right?
 
To avoid confusion about sights for Rossi rifles, I've found that on the
2 rifles I own that are marked "AMADEO ROSSI-MADE IN BRAZIL"
on the tang have dovetails a hair larger than .375".
These guns, a 20" barrel .454 Magnum & a 16" .44 Mag. are just over 2 years old.
Marbles sights fit them just fine and I also had a Skinner peep with .375 dovetail
on the .454 for a while till I discovered the Bullseye sight.

My new Ranch Hand is marked
"BR#####H L.C. MIAMI FL.
MADE IN BRAZIL BY TAURUS"
This means that since the Taurus takeover of Rossi, the dovetails on
all Rossi rifles should have been standardized to meet the American market, their
largest customer base.

That all said, on the older Rossi rifles like the ones with the front sight
mounted on the front barrel band have rear sight dovetails ranging
from .390-.400".

The Skinner .390" is meant for these older Rossi's and has a set screw in the
dovetail to lock it down into the larger sloppier dovetails encountered on these guns.

Hopefully,this should clear up some of the confusion concerning sight purchases.
Old or new, the Rossi is a good gun for the bucks and a joy to tinker on and shoot.
:cheers:
 
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My Ranch Hand that I got just before Christmas has the large dovetail slots ( approx .390 ) front and rear ( standard 3/8 dovetail sights are way too small ) so be careful which sights you are getting.

So far I haven't found a .390 dovetail rear sight. And I am thinking about a ramp mount front sight so the blade doesn't have to be as tall but I haven't committed myself to drilling and tapping my barrel yet.
 
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