UPDATE: Rossi Ranch Hand Mares Leg
- Thread starter driller212
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- Location
- Calgary, AB
Lots of people here paying way to much for replacement sights
on their Ranch Hands and Chiappas.
Steve's Guns gouges us for the same exact Marbles front and rear sights
that you can get from Brownells. Shipping is also much faster.
For Example:
Marbles Low Flat Top Rear sight.
Steve,s: $24.95 Brownells: $20.99 w/account: $13.10
Marbles Contour Front sight.
Steve's: $24.95 Brownells: $12.95 w/account: $8.71
My total bill before shipping plus NRA Add a Buck donation--$22.81!!!
That's less than the gouge for a front sight alone from Steve's, before
shipping! My bill including shipping was $29.37 for the 2 sights.
Speaking of shipping, from Brownells you choose USPS Priority International and it gets to you in about 15 to 18 days average.
From Steve's it took 6 weeks to get to my place!
Do yourselves a favor and shop Brownells for sights. Start an account with them to get the discount pricing.
For ejector springs and magazine followers, your stuck with Steve's. (I made my own followers from brass.)
Happy shopping.
All good points. My problem was I had no clue what to order, tried Brownells and got lost...
G.Mitchell
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Grande Prairie Alberta
Anyone actually mount a safety replacement rear sight yet?
I mounted mine today. It sits a little loose in the old safety hole so I've got an email into Steve's asking for some guidance. I like it though, with the rear peep sight, the fibre optic front sight and full length stock it handles like a dream. Pictures & range report as soon as I finish restaining the forestock and get it reassembled.
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
Ive got both the Flat Top and Bullseye sights in my hands along with .538" &
.570" height front sights. Tomorrow I go to the range to do a comparison
test to see how they shoot out of my Ranch Hand. I'll try both rear sights
using the .538" front sight first & then try them with the .570" sight next
to get a good perspective on the results.
Each group will be fired at 25 yds. with the rear sight set at the bottom
of the riser to quantify the height at minimum setting. Please note that
my rifle is in .357 magnum and shoots flatter than .44 mag. or 45 Colt,
though the load I'm using is somewhat lighter than factory jacketed
loads. (12.0 gr. IMR4227 behind a hardcast 158 gr. LSWC bevel based
bullet)
I'll post the target pictures and results of the tests tommorow evening.
- Location
- Haida Gwaii !
just put my order in today fore the rossi scout scope mount it's going to be fun to see how every one makes out with ther sights
Just finished upgrading my Ranch Hand with Steve's tuneup kit. 3 hours to watch the video and perform all upgrades including lightening the trigger pull, installing new ejector spring, working the loading gate, ejector, etc. Excellent video, clear, concise, walks you through everything, excellent way to get to know your rifle. Gun now performs flawlessly. Trigger is about 3 1/2 pounds, easier to load, ejected rounds no longer end up on the brim of my hat. Well worth the money. As soon as the woodwork dries from re-staining I'll reassemble and take some pictures then hopefully tomorrow I'll hit the range, take some more pictures and do a write up.
Here's a few pictures. The difference with the new stock and the upgrades is amazing. The lever strokes with one finger, the trigger pull is solid and light, loading is effortless, feeding is smooth, ejection is solid and the full length stock makes it a fast handling and I'm assuming a far more accurate rifle. I also rounded the sharp edges of the forestock while I was at it.
NOTE: Please don't ask for pirate copies of Steves video (a few of you have) buy it, it's well worth the money and you will not regret it!.
Cheers
[/url] RH 1 by sunstruck1, on Flickr[/IMG]
[/url] RH2 by sunstruck1, on Flickr[/IMG]
[/url] RH7 by sunstruck1, on Flickr[/IMG]
[/url] RH3 by sunstruck1, on Flickr[/IMG]
The pictures don't do the front fibre optic sight justice, coupled with the peep rear sight...it is wicked!
NOTE: Please don't ask for pirate copies of Steves video (a few of you have) buy it, it's well worth the money and you will not regret it!.
Cheers
The pictures don't do the front fibre optic sight justice, coupled with the peep rear sight...it is wicked!
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- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
Ok Nutz, here be the results of my second range test of my Rossi .357 Mag.
Ranch Hand Baby Carbine. I used the same load as the one in my first test.
(158 gr. LSWC hard cast bullet ahead of 12.0 gr. IMR 4227 powder.)
Velocity is right around 1200 fps.
The first target was shot with the .538" high Marbles front sight in combination
with the Marbles long shank Bullseye rear at 25 yds. The rear sight was set at the
lowest notch in the elevator.
As you can see, this particular sight setup put the shots at the correct
height for a six-o-clock hold on the bull. The dropped shot was caused by
my eye floater gettin' in the way as I touched off the third shot.
This pic shows how the sights look together on the rifle.
As I figured earlier, the .538" height sight would get me in the ballpark
on this gun.
Next up was the Marbles long shank Flat Top rear sight in conjuntion
with the same .538" front sight. This particular sight tapped into the
dovetail with less resistance than the Bullseye sight but it's easily
corrected for fit using Loctite 545 hydraulic sealant.
I fired this group by covering the target center with the front bead.
This setup also put my shots into the ballpark as well.
As I stated in an earlier post, the .570" high front sight would be too high on these guns.
Heres how this set looks on the gun. The Flat Top sight looks quite low
compared to the front sight, but it worked ok.
The blue tape was used to reference the position of the Bullseye sight
when I tapped it back into the dovetail. This sight is my keeper.
So there you have it. 2 rear sights that work on Rossi Ranch Hands to
get you on target at 25 yds. in the lowest setting using a .538" high
front sight. This should get you into the ballpark with the .44 mag and .45 Colt guns as well.
Happy Tinkering.
Ranch Hand Baby Carbine. I used the same load as the one in my first test.
(158 gr. LSWC hard cast bullet ahead of 12.0 gr. IMR 4227 powder.)
Velocity is right around 1200 fps.
The first target was shot with the .538" high Marbles front sight in combination
with the Marbles long shank Bullseye rear at 25 yds. The rear sight was set at the
lowest notch in the elevator.
As you can see, this particular sight setup put the shots at the correct
height for a six-o-clock hold on the bull. The dropped shot was caused by
my eye floater gettin' in the way as I touched off the third shot.
This pic shows how the sights look together on the rifle.
As I figured earlier, the .538" height sight would get me in the ballpark
on this gun.
Next up was the Marbles long shank Flat Top rear sight in conjuntion
with the same .538" front sight. This particular sight tapped into the
dovetail with less resistance than the Bullseye sight but it's easily
corrected for fit using Loctite 545 hydraulic sealant.
I fired this group by covering the target center with the front bead.
This setup also put my shots into the ballpark as well.
As I stated in an earlier post, the .570" high front sight would be too high on these guns.
Heres how this set looks on the gun. The Flat Top sight looks quite low
compared to the front sight, but it worked ok.
The blue tape was used to reference the position of the Bullseye sight
when I tapped it back into the dovetail. This sight is my keeper.
So there you have it. 2 rear sights that work on Rossi Ranch Hands to
get you on target at 25 yds. in the lowest setting using a .538" high
front sight. This should get you into the ballpark with the .44 mag and .45 Colt guns as well.
Happy Tinkering.
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Nice reports boys!
Kanaima how high is your front sight?
The picture you took looking through the aperature shows the sight line well above the dropped hammer......with my stock front sight and lowered rear sight the sight line is well blocked by the hammer when it's down.
Hopefully it will be high enough to work for you but it looks like you could drop the aperture down a bit which might help with the stability....
Shell Shucker, Glad you got it sorted out! 1/16 is a good choice for bead size.... shoot me a PM if you've got no use for the .570 front sight!
Kanaima how high is your front sight?
The picture you took looking through the aperature shows the sight line well above the dropped hammer......with my stock front sight and lowered rear sight the sight line is well blocked by the hammer when it's down.
Hopefully it will be high enough to work for you but it looks like you could drop the aperture down a bit which might help with the stability....
Shell Shucker, Glad you got it sorted out! 1/16 is a good choice for bead size.... shoot me a PM if you've got no use for the .570 front sight!
.360 mm from top of barrel to center line of sight. I'll take some pictures of the sight set up after I have it dialed in but compared to the factory sights it looks like it should work fine.
And FYI for anyone else buying the peep sight, Steve says loose bases do happen so turn the base 90 degrees, use a sharpie to mark where the drift pin should go and drill a new smaller hole.
And FYI for anyone else buying the peep sight, Steve says loose bases do happen so turn the base 90 degrees, use a sharpie to mark where the drift pin should go and drill a new smaller hole.
.360mm? Inches?
What are you measuring with?
I need to get myself a dial caliper as the electronic ones seem to always need a battery when you need them!
If you can just give me a rough idea with a tape measure or better a ruler in either mm or fraction of an inch that would be great!
How far down does that rear sight go? Did you figure out the wiggle?
When are you going to get to shoot it?
JohnC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Ok Nutz, here be the results of my second range test of my Rossi .357 Mag.
Ranch Hand Baby Carbine. I used the same load as the one in my first test.
(158 gr. LSWC hard cast bullet ahead of 12.0 gr. IMR 4227 powder.)
Velocity is right around 1200 fps.
The first target was shot with the .538" high Marbles front sight in combination
with the Marbles long shank Bullseye rear at 25 yds. The rear sight was set at the
lowest notch in the elevator.
As you can see, this particular sight setup put the shots at the correct
height for a six-o-clock hold on the bull. The dropped shot was caused by
my eye floater gettin' in the way as I touched off the third shot.
This pic shows how the sights look together on the rifle.
As I figured earlier, the .538" height sight would get me in the ballpark
on this gun.
Next up was the Marbles long shank Flat Top rear sight in conjuntion
with the same .538" front sight. This particular sight tapped into the
dovetail with less resistance than the Bullseye sight but it's easily
corrected for fit using Loctite 541 hydraulic sealant.
I fired this group by covering the target center with the front bead.
This setup also put my shots into the ballpark as well.
As I stated in an earlier post, the .570" high front sight would be too high on these guns.
Heres how this set looks on the gun. The Flat Top sight looks quite low
compared to the front sight, but it worked ok.
The blue tape was used to reference the position of the Bullseye sight
when I tapped it back into the dovetail. This sight is my keeper.
So there you have it. 2 rear sights that work on Rossi Ranch Hands to
get you on target at 25 yds. in the lowest setting using a .538" high
front sight. This should get you into the ballpark with the .44 mag and .45 Colt guns as well.
Happy Tinkering.
Nice job on the stock too Shell shucker . Did you use a stain on the rear stock?
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
Hi JohnC,
Thanks for the compliment. The fore stock is the original Rossi stain
with a few coats of Tru Oil applied.(It'll get some more to finish)
The rear stock and lever are swapped out from my Rossi .44 mag.
Luckily, the Rossi stain on the rear stock matched the forend color
on this Ranch Hand conversion.
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Some kind of cheap brazilian semi hard wood....you are going to have to experiment with different tints to get a match.
Did you strip the factory finish?
G.Mitchell
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Grande Prairie Alberta
Have you had a chance to shoot with your new sights?
- Location
- Canada/New Zealand
I've long since forgotten what the ranch hands are selling for now, and can't seem to find any info on the Wanstall's website - anyone know what their retail price is currently?
