Updated...Uh-oh..........Husqvarna..........?

Production time is somewhere end of 1955 but it was only delivered in North America mid-to end of 1956.

I have a weak spot for the old Bausch & Lomb scopes as they keep going for soooo looooong... they're also pretty light for that period...

264Magnum,
if you look closely at the picture of the 4100 in the brochure you sent me, you will see the rifle is showed with a "sping type" open sight, not the folding multi-leaf type. (I already had the flyer, I think it's 1960 or so, anyways, it's post '58 and pre '64).
Also, if you read the other rifle descriptions, most say they also have "adjustable sights for 100, 200 and 300 yards" and it's related to the "ladder" of the sight and it does not mention the "folding" feature.
This littérature is a little confusing, but I'll send you the "Imperial" page and you'll see the difference...
 
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Hey Baribal

It is funny how everyones Husqvarna experiences are different. I have owned many 4100s including NIB specimens and all had the ladder type sporting rear sight. I am of the opinion that is the only way they came from the factory. I have also owned several 4000s and all the steel bottom metal rifles had no rear sight or dovetail cutout. All the ones I have looked at or owned(that I considered original and complete) with the alloy bottom metal had the three leaf folding rear sight. These guns started in the 230,000 range right through to the end of the 1600 production. I have never looked at a 4000 alloy bottom metal rifle with a sporting rear sight that I thought was original to that rifle. The brochure I sent you says the following about the 4000/4100 sights.

Sights: Both 4000 and 4100 series are equipped with hooded front sight with German silver bead. Rear sight for 4000 series is a three-leaf folding and for 4100 series is an open sporting sight, both rear sights being adjustable for 100, 200, and 300 yards.

This information correlates with my experience. As with many of these old rifle brands there is so much knowledge based on peoples experience but this is what I have found to be true with the 4000/4100 lightweights. Another weird thing is that all the 456 and 458 fullstocks I have owned/looked at have had the sporting rear sight like the 4100. There was no difference in rear sights it seems between the monte carlo and the straight stock in these models?!?!? Nice discussion and a really nice rifle kamlooky!!
 
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I'm with you, 264Magnum. The folding sight fitted on the 1600/4100 (and on the 1600H, or 450's) were very common in Europe, a little less in Canada, but they usually were installed at the moment of purchase.
Tradewinds may well have decided to have the folding sights on some of their 4000 as they always been available as an option, anyways. As I said, the 4000 is not my main interest (and maybe I should have been more interested :) ).
Another thing that may bring a difference is the importer; I know that Tradewinds exported a whole bunch of rifles to Canada through BC, especially while Dorken Bros quit the line (about 1955-56) and Ruko was taking over. We know that Tradewinds was pushing hard at that time and even Ellwood himself was buying Tradewinds stuff through the US...
We also know that Tradewinds was a heavy enough customer to be able to order special runs just for them. Then, at the end (early to mid '60s) everything seemed to uniformize... except, maybe, for the "Husky" vs "H-5000"..

There is also an interesting discussion about the "Hi-Power" or 1950 model and the 1951... I've seen a lot of them not being d&t (except for the receiver sight) from factory, and the European 640 of the same period weren't d&t, but in the US, they seem to be pretty much all d&t... I've ended up with the conclusion that the US importer(s) d&t'd them at their plant, while here, they didn't...

Anyhow, I personally take little offense on the different sights we find on these rifles having hit the green forests....
 
Cleftwynd said:
What do you want that old klunker for? Looks like a waste of 'Looky gun storage space!! I'll help you out this ONE time and take it off your hands and store it here where I have ample room for such unwanted relics.... I'll even pay the shipping.....once.....
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Since I was first to reply, do I get dibs on any possible future sale? Haha


Very nice find 'Looky, congrats! I am only a LITTLE bit jealous....
 
kamlooky said:
The scope on her is in badly need of a Korth tune up. I think that they will probably replace it given
the shape and scarring of the ocular lense. Then she would look like a pretty gal with a booby lift.

Great info yu'all.........:cheers:
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You might be surprised, Korth has re-furbished some pretty well 'experienced' scopes for me that I was afraid they would scrap.
And they do a fine job..
 
Baribal, with this,

"There is also an interesting discussion about the "Hi-Power" or 1950 model and the 1951... I've seen a lot of them not being d&t (except for the receiver sight) from factory, and the European 640 of the same period weren't d&t, but in the US, they seem to be pretty much all d&t... I've ended up with the conclusion that the US importer(s) d&t'd them at their plant, while here, they didn't... "

----you are getting into my vintage of Husqvarna!

I bought mine in the fall of 1949, in 30-06 calibre. It is the big ring Mauser action, no variances or alterations, just a 98 Mauser, with the rifle s/n of 104,000 range. It had the Swedish crown on top of the receiver. It came d & t on the right side for a Lyman 48 receiver sight, which I had on for many years and shot a lot of game with it while that sight was on it.
When scopes became popular, I drilled and tapped it for a side mount. I don't like side mounts, they never seem as solid, so later d & t it for top mount.
Years ago people bought rifles to use, not to keep original, so we altered them in any manner we felt would improve their utility and never even thought about drilling some extra holes here and there!
I also put a custom trigger on it, I think it is a Dayton and long ago I properly bedded it. In spite of it's light barrel, only a hair over half inch at the muzzle, one can fire five shots, one right after the other, while the barrel gets hot, hot, but it forms one small group.
About three years ago I got a bit melodramatic about its vintage and bought from Ted, on here, a 4x Lyman All American scope, which was a very popular scope for long mountain hunts with horses, when that rifle was young.
The rifle looks great in it's rack, but since mounting the Lyman scope it has done nothing more exciting than shoot small groups at the range.
 
Then, Bruce, you need to take her out for a dance :) ....
You see, the d&t debate goes on, but personally, unless it fills a gap in my collection or is a very rare model, I don't mind the extra holes - well, depending on how bad it was done. They still can be plugged to look pretty.

HVA was one of the first to produce hammer forged barrels and we can say they mastered the process.
 
Probably the main reason the 7x57 never became very popular in north America, is because of weak factory loadings here of the cartridge.
Jack O'Connor sang the praises of the 7x57, almost to the same extent he praised the 270. He always tempered his remarks though, by stating the 7x57 had to be loaded like it was designed for, which was well above the US factory loadings.
He used to say the 139 grain bullet could be loaded close enough to the velocities of the 270, that in the field, one would likely never notice the difference.
Certainly, the Husqvarna rifles we are talking about, with their strong Mauser type actions and made of steel which is second to none, would be ideal for these enhanced velocities.
 
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