the price has come way down the last 10 years for model 12 ,what were 500 to 600$ guns now you have a hard time getting 350$ .guys can buy a new pump with chokes for less then 400$ heck bass pro had rem 87o for 289$ plus a 20$ rebate ,I got one and wish I would have got ten of them at that price ,,I still love the model 12s but it takes a real special one to get any real money out of them ,sub gauges or trap and skeet models still bring good money as well as the 3 inch guns ,a lot of guys I know are cutting them down and drilling them for scopes as thy make very good slug guns ..Dutch