Value of Cooey Winchester Model 84 shotgun in .410
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I used to find Cooeys of all types boring. I guess it comes with advancing age
but I'm starting to appreciate them now.When you can find a pristine, like new one, it's a very good day. And, they are out there.
There's also the more experienced ones for taking out into the field.
* First gun I ever shot...my Dad's Cooey Model 60.
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About Cooey 84 firing pins...there were 2 types.
The early guns (from 1948 until?) had a different firing pin than the later ones.
My gunsmith laid all of this out for me.
The early ones were inserted and then Cooey installed a little spring clip with some special tool. If there was a way to remove this clip properly he's never found it.
When you have to change out the pin on an early one, the only real way is to drive out the pin and this dislodges the spring clip.
Then, to reinstall a pin, you have a headache as there's no way to retain it. So, you have to carefully measure, drill a hole, tap it, and install a retention screw as found on the later models. You have to use one of the newer pins.
The newer pin has a flat and the screw goes in and just short of that flat. If it went any further in it would lock the pin. The screw prevents the pin from falling out, it hits a little shoulder.
The later guns (from what year?) have a phillips head retention screw holding in the later firing pin.
The early pins are Unobtanium.
When you have a firing pin problem with the early guns, it's a PITA.
Later guns, very easy to deal with.
The early guns (from 1948 until?) had a different firing pin than the later ones.
My gunsmith laid all of this out for me.
The early ones were inserted and then Cooey installed a little spring clip with some special tool. If there was a way to remove this clip properly he's never found it.
When you have to change out the pin on an early one, the only real way is to drive out the pin and this dislodges the spring clip.
Then, to reinstall a pin, you have a headache as there's no way to retain it. So, you have to carefully measure, drill a hole, tap it, and install a retention screw as found on the later models. You have to use one of the newer pins.
The newer pin has a flat and the screw goes in and just short of that flat. If it went any further in it would lock the pin. The screw prevents the pin from falling out, it hits a little shoulder.
The later guns (from what year?) have a phillips head retention screw holding in the later firing pin.
The early pins are Unobtanium.
When you have a firing pin problem with the early guns, it's a PITA.
Later guns, very easy to deal with.
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Not to mention iconic and venerable
And now...for the latest installment on the continuing saga of, The Cooey 84...firing pin.
Today I received my new firing pin to replace the other one.
Here are the pics.
This is the later pin with a flat, but it's backwards compatible with the earlier receiver with no retaining screw...if you can retain it. (I've thought of a way to do it btw that doesn't involve drilling and tapping a hole)
Today I received my new firing pin to replace the other one.
Here are the pics.
This is the later pin with a flat, but it's backwards compatible with the earlier receiver with no retaining screw...if you can retain it. (I've thought of a way to do it btw that doesn't involve drilling and tapping a hole)
Cooeyrepair
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- New Brunswick
Correct on the two types of firing pins, the old type I use a small version of the hooked dental pick, wiggle it under the retaining clip and pull out. No damage so you can use it again. A bent paperclip that has been sharped may work too, as there is not a whole lot of space to work with. For stock repairs, Lee Valley has a two part epoxy made for use on oily wood, have been using it for years and have not had a repaired stock brought back yet by a customer.
