Virden Mb. "Meet and Greet" and Shoot
- Thread starter buffdog
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Winchester30-30
Regular
- Location
- Fraserwood, MB
it was a great day! got to see alot of different rifles and thanks to kjohn for letting me try out his SVT40, i really want one now
Thanks to buffdog for the chance to shoot both of his swiss rifles! those things are beauties!! got a chance to try out my 1889 as well
it was a learning experience and a good one at that, it was also my first time shooting at a range!, i Wish i was alot closer to the club id be there every weekend!
Thanks to buffdog for the chance to shoot both of his swiss rifles! those things are beauties!! got a chance to try out my 1889 as well
it was a learning experience and a good one at that, it was also my first time shooting at a range!, i Wish i was alot closer to the club id be there every weekend!
Nice 5th Element Quote!!!!
Man, I wish I could have gone Sounds like it was amazing!!!
I had to spend my weekend finishing up the detail clean and reassembly of my second FN Browning Patent 1900 rifle, so it wasn't that bad...
Ian
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Since this was kind of a "first" and a new idea, we thought that we would keep it smaller and "tight" and see how it would go. After all, we were not sure on how many people would show up for a BS session that involved a bit of shooting. Earlier this year, a remark was made in the Milsurps Forum on GunNutz about getting together and meeting some of the people face-to-face and getting to know a bit about the person behind the Avitar and "nom-de-plume" here on GunNutz.
SMELLIE, TWOSTEAM and I kicked the idea around at one of our Coffee sessions, and about that time RANGE ROVER sent out a notice for a Ross Rifle Shoot in Calgary. As SMELLIE has stated, for various reasons it was not feasible for us to attend Calgary but we decided it could be possible to have an event at Virden.
I sent out a PM to the Members who expressed an interest in the GunNutz Post, and we ended up with over 25 positive replies to the idea. Therefore, we went ahead with the planning. With Milsurp Members and Fort LaBosse Gun Club Members and a few people who saw the event scheduled on the FLBGC website, over the day we had close to 40 people on the range.
We had a very successful day, thanks to Wolverine Supplies, the Fort LaBosse Gun Club, and the people who showed up to make it a success. The weather forecast was a bit negative with showers and thunderstorms predicted, and that may have accounted for some of the Members from further away not making it.
We learned a lot from this one, and there is already talk of having one next year.
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Since this was kind of a "first" and a new idea, we thought that we would keep it smaller and "tight" and see how it would go. After all, we were not sure on how many people would show up for a BS session that involved a bit of shooting. Earlier this year, a remark was made in the Milsurps Forum on GunNutz about getting together and meeting some of the people face-to-face and getting to know a bit about the person behind the Avitar and "nom-de-plume" here on GunNutz.
SMELLIE, TWOSTEAM and I kicked the idea around at one of our Coffee sessions, and about that time RANGE ROVER sent out a notice for a Ross Rifle Shoot in Calgary. As SMELLIE has stated, for various reasons it was not feasible for us to attend Calgary but we decided it could be possible to have an event at Virden.
I sent out a PM to the Members who expressed an interest in the GunNutz Post, and we ended up with over 25 positive replies to the idea. Therefore, we went ahead with the planning. With Milsurp Members and Fort LaBosse Gun Club Members and a few people who saw the event scheduled on the FLBGC website, over the day we had close to 40 people on the range.
We had a very successful day, thanks to Wolverine Supplies, the Fort LaBosse Gun Club, and the people who showed up to make it a success. The weather forecast was a bit negative with showers and thunderstorms predicted, and that may have accounted for some of the Members from further away not making it.
We learned a lot from this one, and there is already talk of having one next year.
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Far as the Hotchkiss is concerned, closest I ever came to having one was a single round of Japanese ammo which is in the Museum at Wolverine on semi-permanent loan.
I know that BUFFDOG has a Manual in electronic form, so he is (always) a good guy to talk to.
Photos might be arranged, possibly also some critical dimensions, but it will take time.
Hope you have a real nice milling machine! This job is 'WAY too big for mine!
Thing sounds like the Hammer of THOR when you let it off!
Th PTRS and the Solothurn are meek and mild in comparison, merely 7.2 and 8.6 respectively, Richter Scale, of course.
I know that BUFFDOG has a Manual in electronic form, so he is (always) a good guy to talk to.
Photos might be arranged, possibly also some critical dimensions, but it will take time.
Hope you have a real nice milling machine! This job is 'WAY too big for mine!
Thing sounds like the Hammer of THOR when you let it off!
Th PTRS and the Solothurn are meek and mild in comparison, merely 7.2 and 8.6 respectively, Richter Scale, of course.
Doesn't have to be detailed-just a general idea...it would probably end up being a breach load BP cannon that would look good being towed behind my jeep...
Oh, my!
There was just so VERY much going on that it is job of work just to remember it all. One thing I MUST mention is that Buffdog took along an awfully-nice Swiss Kar-11 which he had mounted with rather a decent scope. This rifle he made available for people to try out..... and there were absolutely NO complaints as to how the thing shot. We are coming around to the notion that a Kar-11 is good enough that it NEEDS a good scope, just to get the best out of the rifle. The MOUNT in this case was one of the excellent Swiss Arms mounts which require NO GUNSMITHING at all and is absolutely rock-solid. You just remove 2 screws in your rifle, add on the Mount and use the special over-length screws included with the mount, add your scope and you're away. These truly excellent mounts are available from our friend DIOPTER, who is a regular contributor on THIS forum. The SAME mount is adaptable to the 1889, 1896, 96/11, 1911, Kr-11 and Kadet rifles and a slightly-different mount, similar in operation, is available for the Kar-31 rifles. With just TWO mounts, you can test your ENTIRE collection of Schmidt-Rubin System rifles..... and not drill even ONE hole! If this sounds interesting (and it sure does to me!), contact DIOPTER right away!
Another thing which MUST be mentioned is a bag of Bullets I exhibited to a few interested folks. These were different types, highest-quality cast bullets, to fit MOST of the hard-to-find-ammo military pistols. If you have a French Lebel 8mm, a Webley .455, a Schofield or other top-break Smith, a classic Colt or any of a dozen other old-timers, friend JETHUNTER, a regular contributor on this forum, HAS your bullets. He also has special bullets for many Antique RIFLES.
It is his LATEST project, however, which has ME very interested. JETHUNTER has had a special mould made and now is producing a round-nosed .362" bullet in 200-grain weight. YES: this is the very special bullet for all those Pre-Victory Smiths, WEBLEYS and ENFIELDS chambered for the .380/200 cartridge. These bullets duplicate the original bullet for the ".380 Revolver Mark Iz" cartridge and they make your old Smith, your Enfield or your Webley SHOOT TO POINT OF AIM. I will be running a complete test on the single bag which I have here, but I have great hopes. These revolvers have been ignored for far too long for one reason: they shoot so LOW and wide with the only Factory ammo made (146 slugs, .358" diameter) that they are nearly useless for anything but point-blank firing. NOW, once again, they will be COMPETITIVE on the ranges. Poor JETHUNTER at this time is stuck on a drillship off the coast of Norway, so I will delay this test a bit..... but YOU are ADVISED.... so start saving your Nickels right now so that you can STOCK UP on the bullets which your Smiths, Enfields and Webleys NEED. AFAIK, our good Friend JETHUNTER is the ONLY source for these bullets in the country. The facts that he is a helluvva nice guy and good to deal with are just bonuses.
Oh, there just was so MUCH going on!
Janice's computer knows how to do the picture thing, so I will ask her to post some photos of some of the ones that we took along. Likely I will have to bribe her to do this, but Ice Cream works wonders!
There was just so VERY much going on that it is job of work just to remember it all. One thing I MUST mention is that Buffdog took along an awfully-nice Swiss Kar-11 which he had mounted with rather a decent scope. This rifle he made available for people to try out..... and there were absolutely NO complaints as to how the thing shot. We are coming around to the notion that a Kar-11 is good enough that it NEEDS a good scope, just to get the best out of the rifle. The MOUNT in this case was one of the excellent Swiss Arms mounts which require NO GUNSMITHING at all and is absolutely rock-solid. You just remove 2 screws in your rifle, add on the Mount and use the special over-length screws included with the mount, add your scope and you're away. These truly excellent mounts are available from our friend DIOPTER, who is a regular contributor on THIS forum. The SAME mount is adaptable to the 1889, 1896, 96/11, 1911, Kr-11 and Kadet rifles and a slightly-different mount, similar in operation, is available for the Kar-31 rifles. With just TWO mounts, you can test your ENTIRE collection of Schmidt-Rubin System rifles..... and not drill even ONE hole! If this sounds interesting (and it sure does to me!), contact DIOPTER right away!
Another thing which MUST be mentioned is a bag of Bullets I exhibited to a few interested folks. These were different types, highest-quality cast bullets, to fit MOST of the hard-to-find-ammo military pistols. If you have a French Lebel 8mm, a Webley .455, a Schofield or other top-break Smith, a classic Colt or any of a dozen other old-timers, friend JETHUNTER, a regular contributor on this forum, HAS your bullets. He also has special bullets for many Antique RIFLES.
It is his LATEST project, however, which has ME very interested. JETHUNTER has had a special mould made and now is producing a round-nosed .362" bullet in 200-grain weight. YES: this is the very special bullet for all those Pre-Victory Smiths, WEBLEYS and ENFIELDS chambered for the .380/200 cartridge. These bullets duplicate the original bullet for the ".380 Revolver Mark Iz" cartridge and they make your old Smith, your Enfield or your Webley SHOOT TO POINT OF AIM. I will be running a complete test on the single bag which I have here, but I have great hopes. These revolvers have been ignored for far too long for one reason: they shoot so LOW and wide with the only Factory ammo made (146 slugs, .358" diameter) that they are nearly useless for anything but point-blank firing. NOW, once again, they will be COMPETITIVE on the ranges. Poor JETHUNTER at this time is stuck on a drillship off the coast of Norway, so I will delay this test a bit..... but YOU are ADVISED.... so start saving your Nickels right now so that you can STOCK UP on the bullets which your Smiths, Enfields and Webleys NEED. AFAIK, our good Friend JETHUNTER is the ONLY source for these bullets in the country. The facts that he is a helluvva nice guy and good to deal with are just bonuses.
Oh, there just was so MUCH going on!
Janice's computer knows how to do the picture thing, so I will ask her to post some photos of some of the ones that we took along. Likely I will have to bribe her to do this, but Ice Cream works wonders!
Smellie, I'll agree that there was so much going on that it was overwhelming in a good way. Because of all the fun I was having I forgot to shoot about 2/3 of the rifles I was interested in shooting!
I must have been having fun on the account of your HMS Ross was lying on the table begging to be shot and I never fired it! Then there was your sparky, Jan's musket, the scoped k11, Kjohn's mausers and there was a mosin sniper begging to be shot!
Not to mention that I never put a round through my AG Parker longbranch!
Oh well there's always next year!!
My brain is still saying "a Zulu is what you need....Zulu"
I must have been having fun on the account of your HMS Ross was lying on the table begging to be shot and I never fired it! Then there was your sparky, Jan's musket, the scoped k11, Kjohn's mausers and there was a mosin sniper begging to be shot!
Not to mention that I never put a round through my AG Parker longbranch!
Oh well there's always next year!!
My brain is still saying "a Zulu is what you need....Zulu"
Yeah, that's the problem with too many toys in one place and some are shinier than others!
I was there the whole day, put ONE round through my own Zulu, Janice put ONE through hers, one through her Musket.... and that was it.
We LOADED almost 100 rounds of 12/2-65-480 Ball ammo for the Zulus. We thought people would want to try out something THAT outrageous.
Same thing, I have over 250 '06 loaded for my BSA Custom Special, although it will also do for the Remington Model 30 Express or for a P-'17. There are over 100 loaded for the SMLEs, 2 full boxes for the HMS CANADA Ross, 90 6.5 Arisaka, looks like about 100 Carcano still, 8x56R, 8x50 Steyr, 8x50 Lebel (still 45 left), over 100 .455, tub of .50-70 for the Remington, enough 8x57 to frighten Joe Stalin..... and I have no idea what else. Didn't fire a single one!
Too much working, not enough shooting: makes for stubbing your toes on heavy steel boxes!
Oh well, don't have to load ANY for next year!
Unless I run into something NEW....... (to me, anyway!)
I was there the whole day, put ONE round through my own Zulu, Janice put ONE through hers, one through her Musket.... and that was it.
We LOADED almost 100 rounds of 12/2-65-480 Ball ammo for the Zulus. We thought people would want to try out something THAT outrageous.
Same thing, I have over 250 '06 loaded for my BSA Custom Special, although it will also do for the Remington Model 30 Express or for a P-'17. There are over 100 loaded for the SMLEs, 2 full boxes for the HMS CANADA Ross, 90 6.5 Arisaka, looks like about 100 Carcano still, 8x56R, 8x50 Steyr, 8x50 Lebel (still 45 left), over 100 .455, tub of .50-70 for the Remington, enough 8x57 to frighten Joe Stalin..... and I have no idea what else. Didn't fire a single one!
Too much working, not enough shooting: makes for stubbing your toes on heavy steel boxes!
Oh well, don't have to load ANY for next year!
Unless I run into something NEW....... (to me, anyway!)
Winchester30-30
Regular
- Location
- Fraserwood, MB
i fired 3 shots from my carcano, and 5 from my swiss, didnt get to try out my enfield at a long range, or my ross, or some of the other guns i wanted to try out but just didnt get around to,
I feel your pain!
My brother and I spent the better part of a week loading and testing in preparation for the shoot. I brought 100 jacketed .303's for the Ross and longbranch, 50 cast for both, 58 7.62x54r, about 20 for my little carcano, 50 8x57, and even some 7.62x39.
I think I fired 5 rounds through my Ross and another fellow shot 3 that was it. Never fired the longbranch, carcano or my mosin.
Oh well I should have enough ammo to last me for a couple of range days now.
Winchester30-30
Regular
- Location
- Fraserwood, MB
i had about 70 rounds for my 303, and another 10 for my carcano, smellie was nice enough to let me try out 3 carcano rounds with a 268 bullet,
I had a chance to inspect one of those Swiss mounts. Wow they are very nice indeed and rock solid! I'd say they are the way to go if anyone is looking at putting a scope on a Swiss rifle!
As I figured I would be a bit busy with other things at our event, I took only two rifles with me. Some of the Members attending asked me to bring along that 6.5x55 converted Schmidt Rubin and I also took an IG-11 Infantry Rifle with me. For my Birthday in April, DIOPTER had sent me a Swiss Products mount and such a gift deserved an appropriate accurate rifle to do it justice.
The Swiss Products mount is VERY rugged and easy to install. It is also a "no gunsmith" type of mount that does not require drilling and tapping or alterations to the rifle, which is a big PLUS in my views. I loaded up some 190 grain 11/23 bullets that I have found to be very accurate and worked well in the IG-11 and some of the people attending our event tried them out, usually on the 300 yard steel gong. Everyone who looked at the mount and better still, shot the rifle, was very impressed with it.
One more thing I am going to mention here. Most of the Members here are pretty good Guys, and not only are interested in forwarding our Sport, but also are active in helping out in their Community.
DIOPTER is one of these people who quietly help out, but expect no advantages or recognition. Well, DIOPTER, you are going to get some well deserved recognition here. I happen to know that the Quebec Special Olympics was held this year from July 4th. to July 7th. and DIOPTER and his Wife spent many long hours and days in helping with the organization and running of this Event. A lot of their time went into it, and helped make it a success.
WELL DONE.
Winchester30-30
Regular
- Location
- Fraserwood, MB
good guy diopter!!! that mount is quite nice, ive only 2 scoped rifles, but since ive started with milsurps im starting to prefer the open sights, my 1889 shot crazily well at the 300 yard gong, and the sights you have set up on that running deer rifle buffdog are so nice, it was an excellent rifle to shoot, i can only wish i was closer to that range, id love to be out there every weekend!
