I am more inclined to believe that unless you are willing to invest in a top tier scope diavara, nightforce, S&B etc...a quality fixed power scope would be a wiser choice, as they are more likely to be a trouble free scope. I have read and heard too many bad reviews from vortex owners. It kind of cancels out the good ones. I really doubt that they are unbreakable given the large amount of people testifying to their great warranty service...
vortex viper .......are they really unbreakable?
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I dunno, I've never really shopped for them. I paid just over a grand from Wholesale Sports on sale from $1500ish. I believe current pricing is around $1500-1550 CDN.
i have a viper sitting on my 338 winmag , no issues, and have had a few leopolds sent back repeatedly same with bushnell`s, luclk of the draw, my buddy spent 2800 on his nightforce and has had to send it back twice now, high end or lowend, they are all prone to issues
I'm another +1 for vortex. Have one on my LR 308 and its been awesome over the last 2 yrs. Many shoots with no issue, tracks great, clear optics and the red reticle always works (although I rarely use it). Two friends I shoot with regularly have the same 6-24 model and no complaints from them either. Would buy another in a heartbeat. i'm guessing any issues people have are luck of the draw issues that you'd have with any other scope in a similar price point. But honestly KevinM an i shoot together and my vortex is a plenty clear enough to make spotting calls for him an his night force. I'm good with my scope. ymmv
The pst series is okay for a budget scope. Stay away from the sfp models they have poor glass. The ffp are better, but still not what I'd call great glass.
The razor series is excellent, aside from the weight.
I would go for a sightron for good glass at the price point or a nightforce if you want proven durability.
The razor series is excellent, aside from the weight.
I would go for a sightron for good glass at the price point or a nightforce if you want proven durability.
I have an ers...for a grand I'd add.a dmr...nonzero stops though....correct? I got my ers for 1500$
Yup, base model, 5 mil per revolution, no zero stop or illumination. Just locking turrets and supposedly the same glass as the rest of the line.
Elevation turret seized.
Never owned a vortex PST but sold at least 10 to 20 a year for now 5 years and we only had 7 warranty jobs. 50% of this is the guy behind the scope that did stupid things like over torque the ring screws and etc. Remove one because their is guy smashing them up to get a new one.
I own 2 razor 5-20 and they are one of the best option in that price range. ALOT of elevation thanks to the 35 mm tube, 10 mils turret, almost perfect zero stop and good glass.
Reticule is a bit too tick but manageable.
Never add any issue and they have been runned intensively in prs matches for years.
I also have a new 4.5-27 razor gen 2. This is a home run from vortex. Fat low 10 mils turrets, great magnification range, nicely integrated illumination, finer reticule that is the perfect tickness, nice locking turret that are not to hard or mushy like some other brand and a grear the glass is about 95% of a SB or higher end German stuff. Oh and they are at least 1k cheaper.
For people complaining about break and warranty , let just say that SB and Nightforce have also their issue , especially SB. I had 2 of them that broke on me and one wasn't tracking properly. Let me tell you that warranty with SB is a pain in the butt.
So to the OP no they are not unbreakable and they are not advertise as such. But for a 1100-1200 $ tactical scope they are the only one to offer such warranty and feature (zero stop, illumination, decent glass ,solid clicks and good reticules choice)
I own 2 razor 5-20 and they are one of the best option in that price range. ALOT of elevation thanks to the 35 mm tube, 10 mils turret, almost perfect zero stop and good glass.
Reticule is a bit too tick but manageable.
Never add any issue and they have been runned intensively in prs matches for years.
I also have a new 4.5-27 razor gen 2. This is a home run from vortex. Fat low 10 mils turrets, great magnification range, nicely integrated illumination, finer reticule that is the perfect tickness, nice locking turret that are not to hard or mushy like some other brand and a grear the glass is about 95% of a SB or higher end German stuff. Oh and they are at least 1k cheaper.
For people complaining about break and warranty , let just say that SB and Nightforce have also their issue , especially SB. I had 2 of them that broke on me and one wasn't tracking properly. Let me tell you that warranty with SB is a pain in the butt.
So to the OP no they are not unbreakable and they are not advertise as such. But for a 1100-1200 $ tactical scope they are the only one to offer such warranty and feature (zero stop, illumination, decent glass ,solid clicks and good reticules choice)
Unless you have personally contacted each person that you sold a PST to, your numbers might not be accurate. Many people (myself included) simply dealt directly with Vortex for a warranty claim.
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I have a 1-4 PST on my XCR .223 with about 500 rounds. No problems so far even after the rifle fell over on cement once and dented the end of the scope.
For similar money I prefer the Sightron SIII series. I own a Sightron SIII 6-24x50 and a Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 (and a Viper PST 4-16x50). I've also spent some time behind the S-Tac 2.5-17.5x56 and 8-32x56 and Sightron makes a great product.
I haven't had any problems with the Vipers yet and I like some of the features they have but with my eyes the Sightron has better image resolution at distance. Sightron also has lifetime warranty.
This belongs in optics not in precision by the way
I haven't had any problems with the Vipers yet and I like some of the features they have but with my eyes the Sightron has better image resolution at distance. Sightron also has lifetime warranty.
This belongs in optics not in precision by the way
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N0. I've. Have had 3 break 0n me.
That said the warrenty is like NEA..
That said the warrenty is like NEA..
No scope is unbreakable, but I do like Vortex overall. I've had 5 of them. 2 bottom-end Crossfires that tanked-out early on, a Diamondback serving me well on a .22 semi auto, a Gen.1 SPARC, and a Viper HS. The Viper HS has been on a .223 for years. Countless outings chasing groundhogs in the spring/summer, a handful of coyote hunts in the winter, numerous range trips load testing. It is worth every penny I paid for it, and the glass is good for the price point in my opinion. The Crossfires sucked, but I wrongly assumed that they'd be a decent, cheap option for 22s. Neither would track properly, and one was an original Crossfire...the second was an "improved" Crossfire II. Vortex were great with warranty service. Courteous on the phone, quick to act, etc. Just won't buy another low-end scope from them.
In the interest of full disclosure, my Viper HS may be moved down to my 17HMR as I just bought a VX-3 6.5-20x40 VHR for the .223. Almost reluctant to swap it in all honest, I never seem to miss with the Vortex. Good mojo in that scope/rifle for me!
In the interest of full disclosure, my Viper HS may be moved down to my 17HMR as I just bought a VX-3 6.5-20x40 VHR for the .223. Almost reluctant to swap it in all honest, I never seem to miss with the Vortex. Good mojo in that scope/rifle for me!
