VZ 58 Beryl style Mount..

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Ok, so I've been obsessing lately how to convert a Polish Beryl AK rail to the 58...

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For the cost and the crimes I'd have to commit to it shortly after getting one it seemed like I'd be better off coming up with something myself. I liked the design of the new-style ones that allowed you to strip your rifle without removing the optics so I'm trying that route. Here's where I'm at. It's holding a repeatable zero and allows the 58 to be stripped. It needs some cosmetic modifications, but practical before pretty.

It mounts to the front by replacing the rear sight and retains the spring for tension. It did require that I tapped a hole in the stock adapter, but a bolt-around mount could have been designed.

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Yeah or nay?

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yep, sure does... but it hardly slows them down. A steel rail would be better here, I may add a steel deflector down the road, or just tap a metal strip to take the hit. I'm going to beast the crap out of this to see what it won't do.
 
Ouch!
I was coming up with the same idea too. I was supposed to be ready next week. Oh well. Looks good. Did you slant the ejection section to deflect the spent cartidges too???
 
Satain said:
Ouch!
I was coming up with the same idea too. I was supposed to be ready next week. Oh well. Looks good. Did you slant the ejection section to deflect the spent cartidges too???
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Thought I'd have to, but it's ok. It's catching just a bit of the rail. Not enough to damage or jam. It does spit the brass to my 4 O'clock now, which turns out to work great for the guys beside me at the range. People are eating much less of it now.
 
I made a proto similar to that but it attached to the topcover via a hinge and slid on a pin through rsb holes. I kind of thought it bulky though and gave up refining it. Nice job though.
 
It would be great if you could anchor the rear using the top-cover pin hole. Then you could add it to a stock config rifle.
 
Cool.
How is it locked down in the rear. Mine has a plate and to screws locing it into the rear of the mount and the stock screw lock's it down to the rear reciever. I am having problems embeding iron sight's into it. I am currently tring to put AR style rear site on the end. I will post some pic's when I get back from vaction on how it turns out.
 
I thought about anchoring it to the dust cover, but it's not solid enough. I wanted something that would hold zero.

It's attached to the rear by a "sleeve" that drops over a "post" and secured with a set screw. It's a wedge-fit and all that's required to remove/attach is a allen key. I almost chopped up a ARMS #22 mount to have a more "quick-release" style mount. Something like that may go into a improved version if this holds up. I'd prefer that with a steel rail because the whole thing could be welded up rather that bolted together. ..maybe Badboybeeson will make me a steel 870 rail to defile... *cough.. *
 
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I thought about anchoring it to the dust cover, but it's not solid enough. I wanted something that would hold zero.

It's attached to the rear by a "sleeve" that drops over a "post" and secured with a set screw. It's a wedge-fit and all that's required to remove/attach is a allen key. I almost chopped up a ARMS #22 mount to have a more "quick-release" style mount. Something like that may go into a improved version if this holds up. I'd prefer that with a steel rail because the whole thing could be welded up rather that bolted together. ..maybe Badboybeeson will make me a steel 870 rail to defile... *cough.. *
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Not to the dust cover, but using the dust cover pin hole. The rear support would be a "fork" that goes around the sides of the receiver and both the dust cover and the rail are held in place by a longer pin/bolt.
 
Not to the dust cover, but using the dust cover pin hole. The rear support would be a "fork" that goes around the sides of the receiver and both the dust cover and the rail are held in place by a longer pin/bolt.
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Ohh.. yeah, that could be a nice stable point. More universal like you said as well.

Interesting....it's nice to see all the ideas for the 58 coming to fruition... Is there any "wobble" in the mount?
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Zero.

I just put another 300 rnds through it , I "opened" the mount every 50 rnds and it returns to zero. It's got almost 1000rnds with this mount and it's holding. My only beef with this setup thus far is the rear attachment isn't real purdy lookin'. Stevo's got me thinking though..
 
Interesting, have you had any stoppages? I spent a lot of time working the ejection port area and stoppages are always a problem I found I had to tune the shell deflector just right or it would get the odd FTF.
 
suprathepeg said:
Interesting, have you had any stoppages? I spent a lot of time working the ejection port area and stoppages are always a problem I found I had to tune the shell deflector just right or it would get the odd FTF.
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again, nope. I was expecting to have to do a lot of work after mounting to tune it, but have had none. I've also got somewhere near 15,000-20,000 rnds (lost count now) through this gun, so it may just be "loose" enough to not care that something is in the way.
 
Stevo said:
It would be great if you could anchor the rear using the top-cover pin hole. Then you could add it to a stock config rifle.
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Done.. The only modification required to attach this to any VZ now would be to remove the rear sight and rear cover pin and slap it on.

Made a bracket that straddles the dust cover & receiver. The rear pin was replaced with an allen bolt that passes through and pulls it all together. I still kept the forward sight spring to provide for-up pressure, and it still pivots upward for disassembly.

3 points of contact now vs. 2. the only thing I was real worried about was it taking a lateral hit and busting off. Not now.

My original plan was to use a longer rail and tie it to the forward handguard so it's one solid mounting platform, I may do that in the future.


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Stevo said:
Can you use the notch in the rail to act as a rear BUIS, or is it too far above the stock sight line?
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Yeah, this rail is too high for that.

I'm going to talk to our machinist at work about getting a few feet of steel Pic made with a lower profile. It'd be a good job for one of his apprentices.

Might be feasible to machine simple battle sights to the front & rear.
 
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