VZ-58s and more...FAQs are Post 1

Q: Considering this monster thread, what do you think of the VZ-58 type rifle?

  • It is a beauty as it comes, and a must have, since it drives Libs bonkers.

    Votes: 1,507 70.4%
  • It is best pimped out and dressed up, a far cry from an NDP convention.

    Votes: 407 19.0%
  • It is true it was the first cool gun in the Cdn. market for a long while, but I'll pass.

    Votes: 166 7.7%
  • It makes me think of snide remarks, as I am a gun snob and the 58 is affordable.

    Votes: 62 2.9%

  • Total voters
    2,142
What did I do? ;)


OK, back on subject... did anybody inquire about the grenade launcher?

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I would love to have one of those. The impression I got is that they were prototype only and never available. They fire 26.5mm flares or grenades
 
Just in case people are curious, Urban Ops will be adapting his technology to allow the fixed 58 to fold to the left. So you get folding and no more of that puny folder.

Great. I presume you mean that it will align the same as the the fixed stock. Then, yes. Some might want it more inline for optics, I don't know. Can you provide some Photoshopped pictures for us so it is clearer?
 
Just in case people are curious, Urban Ops will be adapting his technology to allow the fixed 58 to fold to the left. So you get folding and no more of that puny folder.

Great. I presume you mean that it will align the same as the the fixed stock. Then, yes. Some might want it more inline for optics, I don't know. Can you provide some Photoshopped pictures for us so it is clearer?

I will try to get some mock-up pics today.
 
On a completely different subject, I contacted Czechpoint USA about buying one of their bolt carriers that has the welded tab ....

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...They said that they won't sell outside of the US. Too bad as that takes care of the VZ gremlin 100%.

Obiwanbonjovi was thinking of making them but apparently he was told that the welded tab is a patented repair mod and he has given up the idea.

How can someone patent a welded piece of metal that is attached onto an already patented device?

And if they aren't willing to sell them to us, can't we make our own overhere?

Who has a MIG or TIG welder and wants to get on this?
 
I doubt it's patented.

That's what I'm thinking too. Wolverine should be making a bunch of those and send them out on an exchange basis; a new, welded one in exchange for the old one without the tab.

I personally would even be willing to pay for shipping and a $15-$20 fee for the welding, even though I shouldn't have to.

But anyways, this isn't a hard mod to do if you can weld. I did everything up to the welding part.

I took a piece of paper and after a few attempts I had the tab shape. Than, I traced that onto a piece of weldable steel from Canadian Tire that is about the perfect height and width. I locked that rough tab into a table vice and following the trace, I filed it into the shape of the tab.

If I could weld, I'd have my modded bolt carrier.
 
I doubt it's patented.

Title:Semi-automatic rifle Sa vz. 58 Document Type and Number:
United States Patent 7373868
Abstract:
A semi-automatic sporting rifle is created by the modification of a fully automatic assault rifle Sa vz. 58. The semi-automatic rifle is constructed partly from original parts of the Sa vz. 58 assault rifle, i.e. bolt carrier, locking piece, striker, return mechanism, barrel, trigger, interrupter and left hand side striker catch, partly from modified parts of Sa vz. 58 assault rifle, i.e. bolt, trigger mechanism feather and safety catch and partly from newly manufactured parts, i.e. semi-automatic receiver with a narrowed magazine well for a single stack removable magazine with extended bridge, safety catch with one more groove on its lower left hand side, new sporting stock where grip part and butt-stock part form one unit and barrel extension permanently attached to the muzzle. Some parts of the Sa vz. 58 assault rifle are removed completely, i.e. muzzle thread protector, bayonet lug, original receiver, original stock, pistol grip, release, lever, trigger lever and right hand side striker catch. In a second version, an inseparable, double stack magazine box is used.

more here h ttp://www.freepatentsonline.com/7373868.html
 
Title:Semi-automatic rifle Sa vz. 58 Document Type and Number:
United States Patent 7373868
Abstract:
A semi-automatic sporting rifle is created by the modification of a fully automatic assault rifle Sa vz. 58. The semi-automatic rifle is constructed partly from original parts of the Sa vz. 58 assault rifle, i.e. bolt carrier, locking piece, striker, return mechanism, barrel, trigger, interrupter and left hand side striker catch, partly from modified parts of Sa vz. 58 assault rifle, i.e. bolt, trigger mechanism feather and safety catch and partly from newly manufactured parts, i.e. semi-automatic receiver with a narrowed magazine well for a single stack removable magazine with extended bridge, safety catch with one more groove on its lower left hand side, new sporting stock where grip part and butt-stock part form one unit and barrel extension permanently attached to the muzzle. Some parts of the Sa vz. 58 assault rifle are removed completely, i.e. muzzle thread protector, bayonet lug, original receiver, original stock, pistol grip, release, lever, trigger lever and right hand side striker catch. In a second version, an inseparable, double stack magazine box is used.

more here h ttp://www.freepatentsonline.com/7373868.html


Well, I am not a lawyer but it sounds to me like the patent is for the complete assemble that they call Sa. VZ85 and not any particular modifications to any of the parts.
 
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