not if you're good at fitting stuff just make sure there are no burrs it can cause problems rconnecting and dont go too short the selector lever only lets disconnector go up so high if you go too short you have to replace sear
VZ58 Problem
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Why is this gremlin such a difficult problem to fix? Is this something unique to the semi-auto version of the trigger group?
I just ordered one of these awesome firearms, and I'm a little nervous looking at this thread because I was under the impression that even if you suffered from the issue it was a relatively easy fix. Seeing this thread makes me wonder...
I just ordered one of these awesome firearms, and I'm a little nervous looking at this thread because I was under the impression that even if you suffered from the issue it was a relatively easy fix. Seeing this thread makes me wonder...
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All I can recommend for now is to put some really sticky grease on the high wear areas and keep it greased so it doesnt wear the metal down.
It would be easy enough to do on a regular basis after cleaning it.
frankly , i dont know why owners are fixing it them self or trying to have replacement parts made at their own expense, could it be they are losing faith in dealing with wolverine ?....this defect are covered by wolverine so if you have the problem , you contact them and they usually want you to ship the entire rifle to them at your cost just so they can replace a tiny part(s).
shipping an entire rifle is a waste of my money when i can replace the parts just as easily.
you as a new owner should not be made to feel this way , its just not right, you would assume wolverine fixed the problem before shipping it to you, we just havent heard one way or another .
the problem is somewhat inherent to the design its a high wear area the czechs have no problems because f/a fire does not wear it most of the time it usually takes several thousand rounds fired before it becomes a problem and good lubrication can slow that down
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Cheesy diagram of the area on the sear that I'm thinking about shortening. I'm thinking that having this shorter might make it more forgiving. The disconnecter would not have to drop right out of sight to let the sear reset. What do you guys think, is this crazy?
not a good idea cos shortening the sear will make the SD slip out of the sear before it releases the striker.
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See if we were just alowed to own FA in the first place this wouldnt be happening. Stupid anti's, don't they ever learn.
So I compared my bolt carrier from my 58L and one from a kit
Do the 858s have that cutout too?
the cut-out has nothing to do with the SD , SD ramp is on the other side. the cut-out was to trip the full auto sear , when the carrier is in the firing positing , on my receiver its welded over where the full auto sear suppose to be. i assume yours is also welded so the cut-out is an extra move to preventing you from converting it back to a full auto.
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Harold Manback
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curtton, I see your point about the disconnecter slipping out. I am going to see how much a sear costs, if they are not that much money I would be willing to sacrifice mine towards an experiment to see how much, if any, can be removed before the disconnecter starts slipping out of the notch on the sear. Sometimes a little can go a long way.
My big motivation for this is to avoid a possible slam fire, or worse, having the rifle fire out of battery. I don't like the idea of the sear just barely catching the striker. I would prefer it to be much more positive.
I would also like to add that in no way am I dissatisfied with my rifle. The CZ 858 is just too much fun
My big motivation for this is to avoid a possible slam fire, or worse, having the rifle fire out of battery. I don't like the idea of the sear just barely catching the striker. I would prefer it to be much more positive.
I would also like to add that in no way am I dissatisfied with my rifle. The CZ 858 is just too much fun
Harold Manback
CGN Regular
I removed the magazine and worked the action while looking in the bottom, and I see what you mean. Leaning something every day.
Harold Manback
CGN Regular
I agree.
yes it is possible for every firearm to have every malfunction you can think of what I meant to say is the sear failing will not likely cause it to fire out of battery as the hammer cannot without breaking strike the firing pin until the carrier is closed but I was talking in terms of practicality not extremes
So I compared my bolt carrier from my 58L and one from a kit
Do the 858s have that cutout too?
I got a gremlin kit from wolverine and this it what I noticed
look carefully at the bolts
The part that sticks down at the rear, the one on the right has been filed down round and the one on the left is more "trianglular" if that is a word.
I compared the carrier they sent me to my two rifles and they have been filed down at the factory. on the gremlin kits I recieved they are fine. I also have a us parts kit and that carrier has not been filed. I think if you were to run a weld on the botton tip of the carrier a couple times and file it back to the original shape, it would cure the problem
Check this thread, on the last page. I think I might have found the cure.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94717&page=80
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94717&page=80
