Waiting for a KSG for 8 months and Backorder cancelled

wildernessguy said:
Some of us still have principles. Not handled well at all. Although in no way would it have pleased everyone, however they should have offered something to customers who have waited ridiculously long as it is only to find out they now have to source one elsewhere in the US and wait all over again. It's easy to say it's no big deal unless you also got on the list in the first 24 hours some SEVENTEEN months ago!
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So what did you pay to get on this list?

Would you rather your name stayed on the list and them never taking delivery of another KSG?

They did the right thing, gave everyone an explanation (they are no longer carrying any Kel-Tec products), and feel bad about it (with previous dealing with John and Wolverine supplies going back over 15 years, I take his word that it was not a decision taken lightly).

Unless you put a deposit down, Wolverine owes you nothing more than they already provided.

And those who don't want to deal with one of thee best (if not the best) dealers in the country, I and others say thank you and that means less wait and more inventory for the rest of us who will continue to look at Wolverine for our first stop in firearms shopping in Canada.
 
wildernessguy said:
they should have offered something to customers who have waited ridiculously long as it is only to find out they now have to source one elsewhere
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Talk about entitlement. So if someone is on wolverines wait list for whatever firearm and they cancel should you then owe wolverine something? As far as I know no deposits were required on these, so what are you out? It's not like any other retailers are able to get these either.
 
Frontier Firearms said:
This is the company that has brought the Canadian market, The CZ 858, Shmidt & Bender, Armalite, Daniel Defence, SAM 1911's, Rob Arms, AI Rifles, Barret, now UTS and many more. They have not kept all of these brands to themselves (Even thought they could have and made more money on some brands) they offer their brands to dealers all across Canada so that gun owners coast to coast can walk into their store and handle these brands. And lets not forget the work John has done for the CSSA.

Some of you have forgotten to this, you can give credit ware credit is due. They are not short on principals or intergity. We see it from the other side of the coin. The KSG is much like a well that could only produce only a little bit of water at a time. People have gotten in line knowing full well that the water will only pump so fast. But when the well suddenly goes dry do you then turn against the people pumping the water?
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Well said.
 
As I said 17 months is a long time to wait on a list only to get dropped lke a bad habit. That is all I was speaking to.
Please don't put words in my mouth I never said they did not have principles simply that I do. All that other stuff you mentioned.... Well quite frankly it had nothing to do with my post.
 
To those whiners WOLV should offered back your deposit plus 100%; heck make that 1000%. That should make the entitlement crowd happy :).
 
As I said 17 months is a long time to wait on a list only to get dropped lke a bad habit
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Very poorly worded. Dropped like a bad habbit? Makes it sound like wolverine assulted you or something. If their supply ran dry how did they do something personal to you. Someone call a doctor looks like we have another confirmed case of KSG Entitlement Syndrom.
 
Guess we better stock up on tomatoes and eggs now, so when the Russian SKS rifles finally run dry we can target every gun store who insults us by not having what we want. Oh wait I want an AR180B, you bastards Wolverine! How dare you no longer have what I want!
 
cowcity said:
Guess we better stock up on tomatoes and eggs now, so when the Russian SKS rifles finally run dry we can target every gun store who insults us by not having what we want. Oh wait I want an AR180B, you bastards Wolverine! How dare you no longer have what I want!
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Think what you want doesn't bother me any. This is why opinions are like A-holes everybody has one. You seem to have all the easy answers here my friend...... so where then is my KSG? You talk about entitlement...... come on buddy, you think waiting quietly, patiently for 17 months qualifies as entitelment? Come on now use your head will you?
 
I can't believe people are still #####ing about this. I was on this list for nearly 18 months ... Life goes on. I just paid a deposit at another retailer and I'm #43... 2-3 years is what I was told. If your not happy move on ... It's a decision that was made for one reason or another. If you don't want to deal with them in the future then don't. Just stop your moaning and pissing. It's not like you lost your birthday.
 
Think what you want doesn't bother me any. This is why opinions are like A-holes everybody has one. You seem to have all the easy answers here my friend...... so where then is my KSG? You talk about entitlement...... come on buddy, you think waiting quietly, patiently for 17 months qualifies as entitelment? Come on now use your head will you?
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There is your entitlment right there, read the bold. You think by adding your name to a list gets you a gun that at the time the metal to make it was probally still in the ground. Do you think you did WS a favor by waiting 17 months quietly, when there were other people ahead of you. My guess it that there is a few hundred people in your situation and so far we have heard from only 2. You were a name to be notified thats it. Until they crossed off all names above yours your KSG did not exist. How much money are you out?
 
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cowcity said:
There is your entitlment right there, read the bold. You think by adding your name to a list gets you a gun that at the time the metal to make it was probally still in the ground. Do you think you did WS a favor by waiting 17 months quietly, when there were other people ahead of you. My guess it that there is a few hundred people in your situation and so far we have heard from only 2. You were a name to be notified thats it. Until they crossed off all names above yours your KSG did not exist. How much money are you out?
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Just by virtue of owning one your a total hypocrite. Your comments mean nothing. For the record I would have left a deposit anytime they didn't accept them then.
 
You are whiner because you whine, and I am not calling everyone who didnt get one a whiner, just you. Dont try and drag the hundreds of others (who dont go stoop as low as slagging a dealer on their fourm) who have yet to get a KSG to your level. If you start playing nice I might concider selling it to you.
 
cr5 said:
Don't blame Wolverine.
In my opinion you should be mad at all the guys out there (including yourself) that put their name on every list with the intentions of getting one then cancelling their other orders or selling the rest for a profit on the EE or worse never wanted one in the first place and planned on selling all of them.
Putting your name on multiple lists creates an artificial demand which is what pushes our perceived wait times to 6 years and is why it looks like they will never meet demand.
One ranter claims he waited like an adult but will wait for his order from the other retailer. That's not waiting like an adult, that's being ignorant and his replies on here are more along the lines of the rants of a spoiled child who didn't get what he wanted.
Wolverine once again did the right thing in my opinion and if I was a retailer I would cancel all preorders and just put them on the shelf when they arrive and say first come first served.

In the end you can't control what anyone else does and whining on here won't change anything.
Bashing a good company with a great track record won't change anything either so go cry somewhere else.
Grow up people. Wanna blame someone? Look in the mirror
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Thanks cr5. It has to be said.:agree:
 
KSGs should be going for around $3000-4000 now on EE ;) lol

should NOT have sold mine, i was sitting on a gold mine !
 
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