I was referring to exclusivity of Distributors for manufacturers of firearms in Canada. Sorry if that wasn't overtly obvious.
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I was referring to exclusivity of Distributors for manufacturers of firearms in Canada. Sorry if that wasn't overtly obvious.
Exactly. But hey, I guess you, and all the others in here aren't sociopaths. Just me.
I mean, I'll happily admit to it. Doubt that you are however.
No. You were quite obvious. It seems you are missing what I stated. But that is ok, i am sure the others got it.
Now back to my question and hopefully I can get an informed answer from someone else and not have smoke blown up my arse.
Is NS the sole distributer of those products?
Well I've never been called a sociopath before, so being called one on the Internet by someone who has never met me before really holds no credibility. So nothing to admit there. Not just sociopaths enjoy drama, as evidenced but the current amount of reality TV shows.
no, sauer 303 is on the list, my RFB was 1moa. even my herron converted 7.62x39 is 1moa, the 30AR and 450 bushmaster are under, but all are light profile not match grade with only the 30ar being stainless.
I have hopes for the MDR, Modern Hunter is expensive for what it is and I could not get 1moa out of it with factory premium ammo.
It would be interesting what the 102 would come in weight wise with a light barrel and what kind of accuracy, just have to wait a few years until the beta testing is over and the product is fully revised
I think NS has exclusive rights for a few brands (IWI maybe?) but almost everything can be purchased through other companies like IRG.
Yeah, and NOW it's $1699 US MSRP...
https://www.mm-industries.com/product/m10x-dmr/
I'm sure they tried NS, but with a $1999 CAD MSRP they would probably been looking at $1700-$1800 dealer costs, not worth losing thousands of dollars over a few whiners not happy getting their money back.
PS...$1450 was still too much for what this mashed up bag of #### rifle is.
What a joke
This whole situation and the antagonistic a$$holes inserting themselves in this thread included.
This is what I feel most people are overlooking. Sure M+M comes out with this new statement. But they omit the fact that they just raised the US MSRP of the rifle, much higher than what it was previously.
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Reflecting on the timeline of how this went down... I simply cannot put the blame on anyone other than Wanstalls.
2015: Canada Ammo has a thread about how the M10x is now with the RCMP lab. They quote M+M as saying a possible price between 2k and 2400. People are genuinely interested and very few groanings about the price. Excitement builds as days go by.
2017: m10x is apprived NR. People are still genuinely excited and some quote the previois Can Am quote for pricing.
Wanstalls presale: Wanstalls throws out a presale quoting unlimited supplies and a low price point of 1450... people are really excited.
M+M responds: they state no Canadian price has been set but does state that Wanstalls will be able to fulfill their orders.
Silence: everyone waits as few details emerg. Can Am throws in the towel clearly getting the shortest end of the stick.
M+M then sets MSRP of 1999 with NS. Note... this price point puts it square in the middle of the 2k to 2400 originally quoted by them taking our stronger dollar into account. Wanstalls then cancels preorders. People lose their minds stating theyd never pay that much... I do note the obvious difference to the opinions on price to 2015 posters...
If you remove Wanstalls preorder and pricing from the timeline you have a completely different story. Sure some will still think its over priced but the hard liners I feel wouldn't exist. M+M would look true to their word almost . That said behind the scenes we all know somethings not right... the way Can Am was cut out etc. Anyway. I will still buy this rifle. I want it. I wont buy anything from Wanstalls again...
2015: Canada Ammo has a thread about how the M10x is now with the RCMP lab. They quote M+M as saying a possible price between 2k and 2400. People are genuinely interested and very few groanings about the price. Excitement builds as days go by.
2017: m10x is apprived NR. People are still genuinely excited and some quote the previois Can Am quote for pricing.
Wanstalls presale: Wanstalls throws out a presale quoting unlimited supplies and a low price point of 1450... people are really excited.
M+M responds: they state no Canadian price has been set but does state that Wanstalls will be able to fulfill their orders.
Silence: everyone waits as few details emerg. Can Am throws in the towel clearly getting the shortest end of the stick.
M+M then sets MSRP of 1999 with NS. Note... this price point puts it square in the middle of the 2k to 2400 originally quoted by them taking our stronger dollar into account. Wanstalls then cancels preorders. People lose their minds stating theyd never pay that much... I do note the obvious difference to the opinions on price to 2015 posters...
If you remove Wanstalls preorder and pricing from the timeline you have a completely different story. Sure some will still think its over priced but the hard liners I feel wouldn't exist. M+M would look true to their word almost . That said behind the scenes we all know somethings not right... the way Can Am was cut out etc. Anyway. I will still buy this rifle. I want it. I wont buy anything from Wanstalls again...
What will not happen? Irunguns will be selling them. Long and short barreled versions were both talked about by M&M for the US market. Their retail price for either version will be lower than the US msrp like everything else they sell
Enough have brought up the current financial state of m+m and possible warranty issues, that it is becoming less and less attractive.
I’m wondering why Wanstalls hasn’t fired back publicly like Can Am has? Time to move on from this give it a year or so to level off. I, like many, will not forget the role Wanstalls has played in this.(whatever that actually turns out to be) Ultimately, they wasted my time and that’s it. It didn’t cost them anything to do so.
If you say you’re going to do something, do it.
I’m wondering why Wanstalls hasn’t fired back publicly like Can Am has? Time to move on from this give it a year or so to level off. I, like many, will not forget the role Wanstalls has played in this.(whatever that actually turns out to be) Ultimately, they wasted my time and that’s it. It didn’t cost them anything to do so.
If you say you’re going to do something, do it.
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