You keyboard warriors initiating negative feedback realize they can leave you negative feedback now right?
Are you sure you want to poke the CGN bear? Because you three will get banned well before Wanstalls, a paying forum sponsor gets anything negative happening.
Their stick is bigger. Food for thought.
Actually they can not leave negative feedback just because you left if for them. There are rules about that.
Wanstalls messed up and put out a pre-sale price and took peoples money for a product they had not secured, then when M+M told them they were not getting them for said price both M+M and Wanstalls told the people on the pre-sale list that they would still get their rifles for the promised price, then M+M went with NS forcing Wanstalls to retract their promise to deliver for the agreed upon price.
To me even though Wanstalls really had no choice other than to take a loss on each rifle (which wouldn't have actually been very much money per unit) this is easily grounds for negative feedback, I don't think guys are out of line leaving negative even though in this situation the only one I'd like to see get anything negative is M+M. Unfortunately they will still profit because there are people out there that will still support them and NS by buying one of these rifles regardless of what douchebags M+M and NS are.
I wouldn't buy one of these even if it was $1000. To me the ethics of the manufacturer tells me something about their product. Think about it this way, if you worked for a doucher like the owner of M+M would you give a crap about the quality of the product you are assembling for him? Would you take the extra time to make it perfect or would you do just enough to get to the end of the day and go home? I know that most people who don't like their job do a half ass job of it compared to someone who enjoys their job and takes pride in what they are doing. If I had to guess I would say these will all be friday afternoon rifles.
What happened here is why I refuse to do any pre-sales, until I can physically see a product on a retailers shelf I can wait. I don't need to be the first one to own something and I have plenty of other NR semi autos to keep me busy while I wait.
If these are such great rifles why aren't they selling in the US? M+M said they told their investors they would jack the price on rifles exported to Canada to supplement low sales in the US. Maybe the Americans know something we don't, I'm going to guess that they aren't all that impressed with them, if they were as good as M+M claims they are then they would be selling and they wouldn't need to make a modified version for Canada. Instead they have low sales and are selling for below MSRP like dealers just want to get rid of them. We may have actually dodged a bullet thanks to M+M's garbage, better than being stuck with a turd.
In the end, quit your crying, you get a full refund or a store credit + 10% off your next purchase. You are out nothing other than a bit of an emotional let down. If you went out and bought a bunch of accessories then that's your problem and no one else's.
AK mags? So what, they're easy to sell and there are other rifles out there that can use them.
A scope? Put it on another rifle, sell it, or return it for refund.
Hopefully we all learn something from this and hopefully our retailers do as well. I would like to see an end to all this pre-sale garbage. Are we really so desperate for a rifle we don't need and can easily live without that we're reduced to a bunch of crying spoiled children when we don't get what we want? You put $250 down on a $1500 rifle, big deal, get over it. This was a cheap entry level black rifle shooting x39 not a $7000 precision target rifle. There will be more rifles like it coming in the future, there always are.
Time will tell if I buy from Wanstalls again, how they move forward from this will help me decide. I've always had positive experiences with them in the past and even though they screwed up on this one I'm not going to condemn them for a mistake that didn't end up costing anyone anything. It's not like they sent in a sample of an already NR rifle to the RCMP in order to try to sink their competition and ended up getting the rifle moved to the prohib list. For that there is no forgiving, for this screw up time should heal all wounds.
. Nothing about sorry we ####ed up. Well sell you the rifle at 1600$ and we'll take a loss. So yeah they should bare some of the blame. Interesting the refund option is last 
