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Yet you purchase a MH/MV (Modern shotgun) from a guy who steals Valor from real soldiers at triple the price

Fvck me eh!!!!!

And I'll NEVER buy a MH/MV fornthe exact same ####ing reason

Your loss, the MH and MV are so far ahead of the 102 it's not even a comparison unless you like comparing a Cadillac to a Sunfire. Take a 102 and change out everything on it other than the receiver and you still won't have as nice of a rifle as a MH. Plus, look at the costs, a 102 is $1750, add a trigger for $400, change the BCG because it seems like many of them are junk there's another $200-$300, then a new forend because there is something lighter available there's another $400, then add a new barrel so it can shoot better than a shotgun as it warms up, there's another $300+ and now you're up to over $3000 plus tax and shipping and you still have an NEA/BCL sitting on the table that not long ago was everyone's most hated brand. Oh wait, there is a new non restricted from them, let's forget about the last 10 years or whatever it's been that they've been pumping out defective products because it's under $2000 for a NR rifle, the money spent after the sale just to make it function reliably must not count.

I have no knowledge of Rick doing that other than from what a bunch of gossiping little girls on here who don't like him have to say. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, what a person did 30 years ago has little concern to me now. I've done some pretty bad stuff in my life. If I got harassed every day about crap that happened twenty years ago I'd be a very miserable SOB that no one would ever be able to handle being around (I'm already half way there without the harassment). I did my time and have moved on, time for others to do the same. Everyone makes mistakes and people like to judge even when they don't know all the facts or haven't even bothered to listen to the other side of the story. If it's true he has to live with that and I'm sure he feels the shame he should.

I bought my MH because it was too good of a deal to pass on for a rifle exponentially better than any other rifle on the market in that class right now. I've played with almost every non restricted rifle available and only a couple come close to the quality of the MH (and are not any cheaper). Sure, it has a DPMS BCG, rather that than an NEA BCG.

Modern shotgun? Not quite.
No lead sled, just a bipod and a rear bag and me laying behind it. I'm sure a better shooter could tighten up that group as well. The good thing about this one is that it does sub 1.5 moa over and over and over and when I slow down and take my time I get groups like this one.
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Nothing to do about that.

After the show started they said they would honor the presale price to the ones who got on the presale.

Now they are saying nope we can't do that.

Promise something, tell us to relax, they do the exact opposite and not expect a reaction?

Anyone here defending Wanstalls has not been made aware of the chain of events

Yrs businesses lose money because of their chosen policy and their stand on their customers. That's called the cost of doing business. It happens to all businesses.

No small business eats $20 000+ in costs because their distributor changed the price...

Its no wonder small businesses are in trouble these days when people expect them to do this sorta thing...

Clearly Wanstalls jumped the gun on this, but M+M are the ones who screwed them who in turn have no real option but to screw the consumer - losing a bunch of customers beats losing their shirt...
 
I have no knowledge of him doing that other than from what a bunch of gossiping little girls on here who don't like him have to say. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, What a person did 30 years ago has little concern to me now, I've done some pretty bad stuff in my life, I did my time and have moved on, time for others to do the same. If it's true he has to live with that I'm sure he feels the shame he should.

Modern shotgun? Not quite.
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Hahahahah yet you criticize what played out over the course of a few weeks ago. So what in the next month, year, 10 years then you won't care about it!?!?!?
Your target means #### to me just like how people want the m10x means #### to you

LMAO girls who "ACTUALLY" fought you mean. Hahahahababbababababbababba
 
No small business eats $20 000+ in costs because their distributor changed the price...

Its no wonder small businesses are in trouble these days when people expect them to do this sorta thing...

Clearly Wanstalls jumped the gun on this, but M+M are the ones who screwed them who in turn have no real option but to screw the consumer - losing a bunch of customers beats losing their shirt...
You miss a few key points on your statement. The rifles were already sold for an agreed price. They reassured everyone that it wouldn’t change no matter what.
Wanstalls can eat the cost now or down the road in lost revenue. It’s inevitable.
You clearly have not been in business before. When you provide a service, (importing, manufacturing, retail middle man)) your customers are your company’s value
 
i will say 3 only if i look the feedback of wanstalls ...

Most "normal" people wont leave a negative feedback it seems the spiteful ones do though
I haven't left any feedback and see no reason to do so. I'm not out any $$$ as wanstalls will refund my down payment.
 
Hahahahah yet you criticize what played out over the course of a few weeks ago. So what in the next month, year, 10 years then you won't care about it!?!?!?
Your target means #### to me just like how people want the m10x means #### to you

LMAO girls who "ACTUALLY" fought you mean. Hahahahababbababababbababba

So these soldiers that were in the same unit as him are saying that while the fighting was going on Rick was back at the bar picking up chicks and telling stories?
Sorry, I don't take much interest in those types of threads so have read nothing other than what has spilled over into these threads.

I wanted an M10x just like everyone else, just not going to support a business that conducts itself the way M+M has over the last while.

If you wish to continue PM me and I'd be happy to let you try to educate me.
 
So these soldiers that were in the same unit as him are saying that while the fighting was going on Rick was back at the bar picking up chicks and telling stories?
Sorry, I don't take much interest in those types of threads so have read nothing other than what has spilled over into these threads.

I wanted an M10x just like everyone else, just not going to support a business that conducts itself the way M+M has over the last while.


LMMFAO, ya you do that then. Enjoy your overpriced blaster just like i will do the exact same fvcking thing for a third the price
 
Don't feel sorry for businesses these they make millions off of us and don't give a rats ass about us once they have our money. They make money on every item that goes through their hands and taking a little loss on a few rifles isn't going to bankrupt them. Maybe the owner of Wanstalls has to sell his Escalade or maybe feels a pinch paying the mortgage on his 5 million dollar home but he won't suffer for long.

Man, if they make that much money selling firearms in Canada I'm going to open a firearms store next week!
 
Man, if they make that much money selling firearms in Canada I'm going to open a firearms store next week!

Hahahah yup sums it up.

Maybe Rick will need to sell off a few more stories just to keep his MH/MV going but you will still buy one right. Don't cast ####ing stones CR5 if you do the same damn thing
 
I'll be curiously interested to see if Wanstalls sells this rifle at the new price or if they wash their hands of m+m

They state they will not be carrying the rifle in the future. I guess north sylva ####ed them and they will still be doing business with them.
 
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Don't feel sorry for businesses these they make millions off of us and don't give a rats ass about us once they have our money. They make money on every item that goes through their hands and taking a little loss on a few rifles isn't going to bankrupt them. Maybe the owner of Wanstalls has to sell his Escalade or maybe feels a pinch paying the mortgage on his 5 million dollar home but he won't suffer for long.


Man, if they make that much money selling firearms in Canada I'm going to open a firearms store next week!


You got it right, I would open one also, from what I see and talk to other gun store's owner, he is still driving his 10 years old Toyota Tacoma.
 
You got it right, I would open one also, from what I see and talk to other gun store's owner, he is still driving his 10 years old Toyota Tacoma.

As if it's a car/truck that really displays how much wealth one has :D
If it weren't a profitable business to be in they would not be in it.
 
Yet you purchase a MH/MV (Modern shotgun) from a guy who steals Valor from real soldiers at triple the price

Fvck me eh!!!!!

And I'll NEVER buy a MH/MV fornthe exact same ####ing reason

My turn to agree with you here...
Stolen Valor is lowest if the low, worse then that M&M assclown.
 
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