"Was" thinking of a Robinson.... but have you seen EE first two pages??

I feel really sad for that ground hog, am I the only one? Maybe I'm just a big softy... Anyways to each their own I guess, I'm sticking to paper and clay.
 
Go to a store and look over an XCR before buying. There was a time when I was set on buying one. On paper it has great options and seems like the perfect rifle. For me when I picked it up and looked it over I wasn't as thrilled. It felt clunky to me. Balance felt off, the barrel retention system looked a bit suspect to me and it still had the AR flaw of having to be cocked before the safety could be activated. It doesn't open as much as I expected without fully separating the upper and lower. The interior seemed a bit crude as well. It just didn't seem like the right purchase for me. Yes I know others don't feel this way which is why I suggest trying one out first.

I should point out that the ACR also didn't work for me once I picked one up. Balance was off and the bolt release buged me a lot. Again on paper I would have thought it would be perfect. While I did prefer the ACR over the XCR neither caused me to approach the till for a purchase.

I prefer the AR and Tavor greatly over the above two firearms. But again pick one up first or better yet if you can shoot one.
 
I feel really sad for that ground hog, am I the only one? Maybe I'm just a big softy... Anyways to each their own I guess, I'm sticking to paper and clay.

Which would you rather put a bullet in? Your horses, cattle etc or that groundhog? Putting a bullet in one of my horses would be like shooting my best friend. I'd wipe out most of the groundhog population gladly before facing that. The groundhog holes are treacherous to horses and cattle. A broken leg with either means putting the animal down.

Another reason why I can't stand the anti why do you need that argument. An accurized AR is now a common varmint rifle in the States. The goal is to keep your pastures and paddocks safe for your livestock. An accurate semi auto is the fastest way to do this.

That being said you will never feel guilty shooting paper or clays. There's a lot to be said for that.
 
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The rails on the XCR are aluminum the weight doesn't come from them I think the weight is due to the long barrel and the gas piston system all hanging over the front of the reciever

+1.
the barrel is the major weight of it all.
if you had a 1 or 2 gen skele stock you could really notice it. I know the fast isn't much heavier, but the adjustable LOP make it feel a lot better.

I do believe all the canadian barrels are "heavy profile" as well.
a "pencil" version can be purchased from wolverine, but everything you buy new comes standard with the heavy.

Add something like an acog towards the rear and the rifle balances a lot better.

admittedly though, i'm an XCR fanboy. there, I said it.
 
It doesn't open as much as I expected without fully separating the upper and lower.
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I have an older model (3 yearsish) and it doesnt open all that far but i believe all the new ones open all the way like an ar.

pffft... nothing a dremel can't fix.... (*kidding*). I mean, it could... but I just seperate mine completely when I need in there. goes back together easy enough /shrug. And about the weight thing.. I'm so tempted to try out one of the light barrels, heard that it makes an incredible difference. I just wish we could cut back a couple inches also.
 
Which would you rather put a bullet in? Your horses, cattle etc or that groundhog? Putting a bullet in one of my horses would be like shooting my best friend. I'd wipe out most of the groundhog population gladly before facing that. The groundhog holes are treacherous to horses and cattle. A broken leg with either means putting the animal down.

Another reason why I can't stand the anti why do you need that argument. An accurized AR is now a common varmint rifle in the States. The goal is to keep your pastures and paddocks safe for your livestock. An accurate semi auto is the fastest way to do this.

That being said you will never feel guilty shooting paper or clays. There's a lot to be said for that.

Good post, balanced perspective. The real question: would the XCR sell up here, if the Ar15 were non-restricted?
 
Good post, balanced perspective. The real question: would the XCR sell up here, if the Ar15 were non-restricted?

I'd buy one. The idea that AR is the greatest rifle of all time is reinforced by its restricted status. Naturally we want what we can't have. The question really is: would so many people want to hunt with an AR if it were regulated like any other rifle? Its restriction adds to its appeal.

That being said, I own 5 ARs and an XCR, and rumour has it I have a Swiss Arms too, though I'll neither confirm nor deny that, and I love them all. The XCR has been the most reliable of all of my black rifles, now approaching 2,000 rounds without a single failure of ANY kind. I have ARs with the same track record, but only with <1000 round counts.

Would the XCR fetch the price it does if the AR were non-restricted? No, almost certainly not.
 
pffft... nothing a dremel can't fix.... (*kidding*). I mean, it could... but I just seperate mine completely when I need in there. goes back together easy enough /shrug. And about the weight thing.. I'm so tempted to try out one of the light barrels, heard that it makes an incredible difference. I just wish we could cut back a couple inches also.

I take my AR rifles apart for cleaning as well. I agree not a major issue. Just something I noted.

One thing you guys/gals should realize with the thicker barrels on the XCR. I actually like that they went that way. One of the reasons I would suspect other than not losing accuracy as quickly after a few shots would be to avoid vertical dispersion. Vertical stringing can be an issue with rifles like the XCR, RFB, FN FAL, etc. The heavier barrel helps mitigate this issue. Reloading or finding the right round can counter this as well. But yes you do pay for it in balance.
 
Good post, balanced perspective. The real question: would the XCR sell up here, if the Ar15 were non-restricted?

Thanks.
I fully suspect most of us would own half the firearms we currently own if the AR were non restricted. It's versatility guarantees it a spot as the modern rifle. I consider the AR rifle to be our generations mauser action. We got royally screwed on it being restricted. Essentially this is the equivalent of them restricting the mauser action that most current hunting bolt action rifles are based on as they are "military" and don't have a "sporting purpose". Any hunters holding onto the idea that you don't need a semi auto are effectively killing their "sport" for the next generation. How much interest would there have been back in the day if they only allowed muskets and made the bolt actions restricted? Not many youth would be into antiquated hunting. We are approaching that time now. When they restrict an almost milsurp design as "non sporting". The current hunting rifles are essentially based on a 100 year old design.
 
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back in the day I had a SP1 and a Valmet M76 with a 20" barrel and a tube folder and a Stye Aug, If the AR was non-restricted I would still have other guns...they just wouldn't come out much, a lightweight AR in the bush is awesome.
 
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