West Coast M14 Support Group , Lowermainland M14 Clinic, December 11, 2010

HEY EVERYONE

Just woke up from a few hours sleep, got a coffee in me , it's 12 a.m. and I'm hittin the road to the coast for what is usually a 5 hour drive in clear conditions....... i'm giving myself LOTS of time hehehe
Hopefully it's smooth sailing ..... if i don't make it , gawd forbid..... :D
hopefully my bigest problem will be the 4 hours between 100 mile and Hope ...... without a Timmies to stop at :eek:

anyhow...... EVERYONE BRING A FOLDING or CAMPING CHAIR IF YOU HAVE ONE :D and if you have work mate benches or folding tables and can bring...... might be a good idea.

See ya all in a few hours ;)
 
Another fun clinic today, great meeting ya all.
Big thanx to the POCO gun club for allowing us to utilize the facilities.
Todays Chinese M14 surpise... An out of the box stock 1.630 chamber... Match .308

So did all you nutz have fun ?
 
Yep, had a great time Thomas. Big thanks to you, Satain, and powmia56 for your help with the actual work on the rifles, and honorable mention goes to Jeff and Rob for bringing donuts for everyone. Learned a lot in a short time, glad I was able to make it.
 
Oh yes! It was an awesome time! There was alot of information to absorb ! My favorite part was Powmia56 smashing the flash hider off the end of my barrel ! Learned alot! and thanks to everyone who helped out !

Satain , hows the thumb holding up?
 
It was great to finally put faces to all those cool usernames.
I got my oprod guide straightened up, and everything checked out.
I can shoot with confidence that i have a safe, and more accurate rifle.

Thanks Thomas for all your patience, and expertise.
Thanks to all whose tools were available for everyone to use.
It was worth the drive for sure!

I'll be at the next one!

Rob
 
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Oh yes! It was an awesome time! There was alot of information to absorb ! My favorite part was Powmia56 smashing the flash hider off the end of my barrel ! Learned alot! and thanks to everyone who helped out !

Satain , hows the thumb holding up?
They are all blue & purple but at least some of you won't have them all loaded full of grease or cosmoline now & now what they are supposed to sound like when you shake them.
Also I think we should give powmia56 a new name...
The flash hider removal king!
And thanx for everyone helping to clean up saved me lotz of time ;)
I know we did not get a chance to cover everything that all of you wanted but maybe in the new year we can snag M14Doctor away from making stocks to host another 1 for all of ya.
 
Had a great time ! And am in my happy place with my new stock from M14 DR .Thanks to all that made it fun Look forward to doing it again !:D
 
Well, I sure had a great time, as usual. Didn't get a chance to shoot (Thanks Satain for planning ahead and bringing ammo for me to shoot, maybe another time) but the rifle work just keeps going and before you know it, time to leave.

We got to install a shorty barrel on a rifle. Been a while since we did a barrel install at a clinic so I was a bit nervous and decided to let M14Doctor do the honors. New barrel indexing gauge set (Badger Ordinance's as recommended by Kuhnhausen) was pretty cool although the level seemed a bit "too" accurate. 0.005" per foot for each graduation. Maybe more than needed for accurately indexing a barrel. I probably just need to play around more. Maybe do a bunch of barrel installs with it. :)

As usual, we removed four or five flash hiders. The biggest surprise was the rifle that didn't have welds. Gave it a good tap and it just flew right off. It also included a bayonet lug so looks like they changed up the flash hider set up on some of them.

Did lots of bolt dis-assembly, cleaning, and inspection. M14Doctor's tool for disassembling bolts is pretty cool. My GI one is a bit quicker but you have to be pretty proficient to use it whereas the Canadian made version holds your bolt together while you #### around with it. I did discover recently that if you have a GI bolt tool wrap a zip tie around it. That holds the clamp down so you don't need a third hand while you assemble. When you are ready to remove the bolt you just slide the zip tie down and it releases everything. I am using one of the really heavy duty zip ties so no chance of it snapping under pressure.

Hmmm. What else. Crappy scope mounts that are only held on by the two side screws with no support on top. I suggested a drill and tap to add a set screw above the front of the receiver. Cheaper than buying a proper mount for now.

Center punch didn't make deep enough divots on at least one rifle for conditioning the op-rod guide. Had to use a hammer punch on that one. I guess it depends on how loose the op-rod guide is to begin with.

Gas system cleanout tools: Easily made with a "file handle set" from your local hardware store and the appropriate drill bits. You'll need a letter size P, and number size 15 and 26. The size 15 bit should be an aircraft 6" or it won't reach the bottom of the gas piston. There was one other size for cleaning the plug but I can't remember what size it was off the top of my head. I'll edit the post later.

Hope to see more of you at the next one and maybe I can get out in time to do some shooting. Have a Merry Christmas.
 
I'm looking into a date in February and would like to maintain a Bi Monthly clinic schedule at POCO.

Also, any of you guys that wanted NM guide rods... P.m. Me today or tomorrow while I'm still in the LMZ
 
Thanks a lot to Thomas, Joey and Grant. Learned minor little things such as no oil on firing pin and gas assembly... also to close the gas assembly when I clean the barrel.
Was also nice to find out that my headspace was 1635. Now I can use reloads... once I figure out how to reload that is.
 
Thanks Thom, another great clinic. I learn something new every single time and I get to share my passion with other M14 nutz.....in other words, excellent company. A special thanks to those who brought tools and food and shared them with everyone. See you guys next time. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
 
Awe man I wished I had joined this site earlier. I just found this site like two or three days ago and I just recently bought an m14 not they are fun guns. Oh well maybe next time. Someone let me know or ill at least check it out from time to time. The norc 305 I have is new to me but I'm really liking it. So far because of work ice only been able to fire 20 rds through it but ill be getting more time soon(I hope). Just putts curiosity though you know on all those history channel "top 10 greatest guns" and so on. They say that the us army went with the m16's because the weight of the ammo and gun , the uncontrolability at full auto and its usage as a cqb weapon. I've used m16 m4 etc and while they are quite a bit lighter the m14 isn't that bad and I've walked around and trudged through mud etc.. With lots of like at least 12 20rd mags a few boxes in my ruck and I really didn't have a prob with it and I love the fact of knowing that if (god forbid) I found myself having to put someone down they will definately stay down after the first or second shot? Am I weird in this thinking?
 
Hey there boys. Great clinic once again. Would the fellow in the winter camo jacket with the 2 Garands please contact me regarding my Garand accessories. I will lower my prices to reflect current market trends. Send me a pm.
 
That was me Frank. After the hollidays are over, and i get caught up on a few things I will see if you still have them. Interested for sure!

Rob
 
Awe man I wished I had joined this site earlier. I just found this site like two or three days ago and I just recently bought an m14 not they are fun guns. Oh well maybe next time. Someone let me know or ill at least check it out from time to time. The norc 305 I have is new to me but I'm really liking it. So far because of work ice only been able to fire 20 rds through it but ill be getting more time soon(I hope). Just putts curiosity though you know on all those history channel "top 10 greatest guns" and so on. They say that the us army went with the m16's because the weight of the ammo and gun , the uncontrolability at full auto and its usage as a cqb weapon. I've used m16 m4 etc and while they are quite a bit lighter the m14 isn't that bad and I've walked around and trudged through mud etc.. With lots of like at least 12 20rd mags a few boxes in my ruck and I really didn't have a prob with it and I love the fact of knowing that if (god forbid) I found myself having to put someone down they will definately stay down after the first or second shot? Am I weird in this thinking?

Stay tuned. There will probably be another in Feb or March.

Try adding 80 pounds of gear to your rifle and ammo, plus a flak jacket and a helmet, then walk through the muck. It gets old fast.

Shotgun will take them down quicker and more effectively, but not at the ranges that the 308 will give you. If the SHTF you will probably want your 14 for fending off the hordes and your shotgun for keeping them out of your door. (But no one here has really given it much thought I wouldn't think.) :)
 
Stay tuned. There will probably be another in Feb or March.


Shotgun will take them down quicker and more effectively, but not at the ranges that the 308 will give you. If the SHTF you will probably want your 14 for fending off the hordes and your shotgun for keeping them out of your door. (But no one here has really given it much thought I wouldn't think.) :)

:wave:
 
Hey guys, new to the m14 scene. I was wondering where would be a good place or if any of you know anyone from the CGN website that does bring in USGI fiber glass stocks or some USGI parts/accessories? Let me know if you guys have a second. Good to see a bunch of solid guys who like to build m14's!

P.S. any news on if the M14 doctor is putting on another clinic anytime soon?
 
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