Wha is the best for tactical riflescope ?
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Please define "tactical" for us? If the reticle offers defined holdover(and hold under ideally) points and defined windage hold points that are fine and do not clutter the view, I would call that a precision optic. Tactical is a word and/or term that gets tossed around far too much. If you check its literal definition it has little relation with most "tactical" accessories.
The Bushnell you have/use/mention is a 6-24 power. Again, such a range indicates a time consuming long range shot, not a time sensitive unknown target of opportunity type of use. Such an optic should be mounted to a heavy bolt action rifle chambered in something suitable for long range. Again, if you're using the optic appropriately on an appropriate rig then range finding with the reticle is a non starter. The optic and rifle are about precision, ranging with an optic is not a precise method and at extended range will create massive errors. So why the hard on for a FFP ranging reticle? If you're serious about long range be it a civilian or MIL/LE you will have a dope chart/card made up at various power settings. Again, if you are at such a range where 24x(or whatever top end you glass has) is too much, then you're running the wrong optic for the job.
Best bang with the above mentioned features, that doesn't mean its worth the price tag, nor does that mean its a quality scope. It means "for the money" you get more features than a comparably priced high end brand. I would comfortably pit an S&B, Nightforce, USO, Premier Reticle, March, Hensoldt, maybe even a Zeiss or Sightron against that Bushnell any day all day with zero surprise as to the winner. That's keeping all the features the same. We could drop a couple and compare similar priced optics for quality and I would still bank on other brands.
Budget is a term used to describe a set amount of money over a specific period of time. Extend the timeframe and save a little longer, and you can have that optic.
TDC
Have you ever used a zeiss conquest with a z-1000 reticle?
I have never once said I use a mildot for ranging. Although I know how to range with a mildot what I like to use it for is shot corrections and holdovers. That I can do that at any magnification is a big plus for quick corrected follow up shots.
The scope that I would most like to pick up is a Bushnell HDMR 3.5-21x50 with G2DMR.
Oh and while I'm saving up that 3 thousand plus for each of my 3 guns what am I using in the mean time?
I have never once said I use a mildot for ranging. Although I know how to range with a mildot what I like to use it for is shot corrections and holdovers. That I can do that at any magnification is a big plus for quick corrected follow up shots.
The scope that I would most like to pick up is a Bushnell HDMR 3.5-21x50 with G2DMR.
Oh and while I'm saving up that 3 thousand plus for each of my 3 guns what am I using in the mean time?
I have played with the Z1000 reticle I have not shot with one. As I said before, Mildots are dinosaurs and are not precise, even for corrections/holdovers. Again, if you're serious about long range you will have a dope card made with holds for different magnifications as well as ranges making the need to hold over unnecessary, wind corrections are a different game. I do agree that a FFP optic does simplify the process.
Why not run your March or S&B on a QD mount and swap between guns? I'm sure you've seen Magpul's precision rifle video. Running a solid ballistics program like the Atrag and moving your glass from rig to rig just makes sense. The program will get you zeroed in short order after moving glass and it aids all your shots. Not overly expensive and its a one time cost.
TDC
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Everyone has continued with their suggestions and thoughts but the OP hasn't even given a budget.
People ask for the best all the time, usually followed up with "What's the price?"
Maybe he doesn't have a budget.
I'd bet a case of beer the OP was just talking about EOtech vs. Aimpoint.
Wanna play.....you gotta pay.....
Schmidt & Bender PM-II series...............you won't look back..........
And for TDC, Bausch & Lomb (Before Bushnell went under one name) in the mid late 1990s had a fixed 10X "Tactical"(Mildot reticle and 30mm tube) scope in their line up. It was used by a few Elite military units....(Such as the U.S. Navy SEALs on their M25 DMR rifle)........I had one and it was a great scope.......sadly no longer made........
Schmidt & Bender PM-II series...............you won't look back..........
And for TDC, Bausch & Lomb (Before Bushnell went under one name) in the mid late 1990s had a fixed 10X "Tactical"(Mildot reticle and 30mm tube) scope in their line up. It was used by a few Elite military units....(Such as the U.S. Navy SEALs on their M25 DMR rifle)........I had one and it was a great scope.......sadly no longer made........
Pfff... all these high dollar scopes... I am using a MILLETT. Flame away. I dont care. You are all seguesting scopes like he has no budget, maybe he doesnt want to list a budget because of this. But for the $600.00 i paid for mine it does just fine behind my .308. I am have no problem keeping up with higher dollar scopes "tactical" optics.
You can keep up as long as your adjustments track true and until you drop/hit the optic. Nothing inherently wrong with lower cost optics, they do the job. What you get when you pay for high end glass is the assurance that they won't fail and can take the abuse. As much as low cost optic users are happy with their choices, not one I've ever met would turn down a higher end optic if given the choice. I wonder why that is??
TDC
