Agreed, 600 Yards is practically a gimmie for a good shot with decent equipment in reasonable conditions. I thought we were talking about 1000. OoopsOn course but for me at least its easier to take a 600 yard shot from a tripod with a trg-42 in 300 norma mag then a 200 yard off hand 308 shot using a light weight hunting rifle in a swamp but its a cumulation off Life expérience and hunting style. Here in Québec I hunt overlooking a lake in a blind that looks moré like a small cabin
Have you made any loads? or what factory ammo are you using?Just picked up my "long range" mountain rifle intended for goat and sheep.
Model 70 Extreme Weather in 6.8 Western. Currently have it topped with Leupold VX5HD 3-15x.
Fierce 338 lapua with nightforce shv, weatherby mark 5 arroyo in 338-378 wby Leupold scope, weatherby mark5 arroyo in 340 wby leupold scope, and my pride and joy Gunwerks Magnus in 28 nosler with Burris veracity ph scope, all ring gongs at 600 yards which I practice at a lot at home, would like to try farther but that’s what I’m limited to at home, only ever shot at coyotes at that range twice, deer size animals or moose probably longest I have ever shot comfortably is 500 yards from a good rest not freehand. Can never have to much gun is my thinking, but that’s me , whatever you decide shoot lots and have fun.Looking at putting together another hunting rifle for long range big game, what are your go to caliber scope and rifle set up? Looking for something factory, not a build and I have no budget really. Post some pics and show off your long range rigs.
Gunwerks Magnus in 28 nosler with Burris veracity ph scope
So far I've just been using the 165gr and 170gr factory loads from Winchester.Have you made any loads? or what factory ammo are you using?
It’s a great scope, once I got it set up and input my reload info and a 200 yard zero its bang on, very user friendly, I have the 4-20X50mm with the C4 wind moa, Omar at Precision Optics sold me on it and I am very happy he didWhat do you think about the Burris Veracity PH? Which one are you using?
One important thing I neglected to mention is a reliable and accurate rangefinder. What I found was that after 300 yards the drop every 50 yards becomes a material consideration. It seems nowadays that most rangefinders are pretty good but after 300 yards knowing the distance in 50 yard increments is critical. With my rig I know the drop every 50 yards out to 500 yards and I use my hashmarks in my reticle.For me long distance hunting is 400 to 500 yards. This is easier said than done and for me required a lot of practice. I could probably shoot longer if I put the work in but for what and where I shoot that is about as far as I would have to shoot. At this point I can repeatedly hit a coffee cup out to 500 yards.
I've taken a couple of deer at 450 plus, both one shot bang flops. I wont hesitate up to 500 as long as the wind is soft and the animal is not moving much.
I saw the "flat shooter" term surface in this thread; I would offer that most modern cartridges are flat shooting and the difference between a 3006 and 300wm is not significant, whereas the difference between a 4570 and a 300 wm there is a significant difference.
Mt goto rig is a customized Winchester New Haven Model 70 Classic. It's chambered in 338wm. I use a 2.5 - 10 Nightforce with the MOA reticle. I have the gradations charted so when I know the distance I just pick the right line and pull the trigger. I also only shoot one load; 250grn Swift AFrames at about 2800fps.
I have a feeling this thread could grow legs of it's own so here are a couple of parting thoughts...
IMO any "modern" bottleneck cartridge from 6.5x55 swede, 7mm08, 270, 280, the fast 7mm's, 308, 3006, the fast 300's, 338wm, 35w, 375H&H, etc, and even Gatehouse's 375 Ruger will all work up to 500.
A tuned trigger (less than 3lbs breaking clean), Alpha glass in your scope (Swaro, Leica, Zeiss, Nightforce, USOptics, etc) with either turrets or hashmarks, and a good rangefinder are absolutely required.
And your diligence to practice until it's routine to smash that coffee cup at what you consider long range.
Out a bit farther and 25 yards, or even 10 yards makes a difference!One important thing I neglected to mention is a reliable and accurate rangefinder. What I found was that after 300 yards the drop every 50 yards becomes a material consideration. It seems nowadays that most rangefinders are pretty good but after 300 yards knowing the distance in 50 yard increments is critical. With my rig I know the drop every 50 yards out to 500 yards and I use my hashmarks in my reticle.
I know the drop in 50 yard increments every time because I use the same powder, brass, primer, and bullet all the time. If I did change the bullet weight, or style of bullet it would complicate things after 300 yards.
He mentioned deer a few posts down, but not that he was only after deer. Just big game that I saw.Did we forget he’s just after deer with this addition to the collection? Holy howitzers! Good advice but he’s not a rookie and doesn’t need ethics just gear choices and why. Also good advice on rangefinders. Grabbed a sig kilo6 compact on sale the other day, wow that little booger can range! Not a primary animal finder (blue tint) but pretty sharp enough and usable in many situations but it can range like lightning and far. Impressed as a two handed rangefinder. Be around neck likely when getting out of truck but primary glassing will be my usual alpha glass.