What a shotgun is supposed to do!

"The IPSC and assault guns should be refered to another more appropriate section.

Best regards,
Henry
PS: One of the founders of ATPQ or IPSC Quebec btw!"



He claims to have been one of the founders IPSC in Quebec. Not something I'd list on my resume. Look at the state of IPSC in Quebec. They actually come to Ontario for their provincial finals. They can't advance forward, only latteral movement allowed. :runaway: :runaway:
Another listing for IGGY!

-Jason
 
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How can he tell everyone that a shotgun can be used only the way he uses it? Is that not something the Taliban do all the time; dictate t people what they can and cannot do? Imagine spouting off about the troops to try and shame everyone. A cheap ploy. Then attempting to link that to his argument even though those two things have nothing whatsoever to do with the other.
Then bragging about his shooting skills. What has shooting ability or supporting our troops got to do with saying shotguns ought not to be used as tactical firearms? Cheap shot is what I say he attempted.
I do not have a shotgun. I like rifles and pistols. However I will not dare to tell others what they can have and what how it can only be used.

Give him a chance to see the error of his way and perhaps offer an appology. It would be manly on his part if he did. He can still hold his opinion but he cannot expect to dictate to others without receiving a strong response. We get enough of that from gun-hating politicians and weak frightened people.
 
I'm not sure I understand the point he is trying to make... Is he trying to say that:
1-Tactical shotguns are useless ?
2-We shouldn't post pictures of tactical shotguns ?
3-Only real hunters like him should give their opinion ?
4-That he is the best in the world ?

Anyhow... This thread sucks
 
hnachaj said:
This is very amusing and quite depressing............................................


Please enjoy your firearm. But be careful where you publicise it

Happy New Year to all,
Henry:dancingbanana:
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Why be careful about where I publicise it? The raison d'etre of these combat style guns is to save lives by stopping life threatening action by criminals or enemy combatants. It's good to shoot those attempting murder and rape. It's good to shoot communists and radical jihadists. Dare I say it's an even more lofty and noble purpose than shooting a grouse.

There is about as much shame in killing evil with a combat shotgun as in performing life saving surgery, or rescuing a drowning child.

Why would I want to hide such a lifesaving device? The factories that make these products don't do so to supply bank robbers or gangbangers. Having such a gun for home defense is as wrong as having a fire extinguisher and smoke detector.

Those who believe otherwise are uninformed non-thinkers, and it is in our best interests to change their beliefs, as many are subject to reason.

Any appeasement to the antis is folly. Show them your belly, and they will kick it, hard.
 
hnachaj said:
This is very amusing and quite depressing towards our boys fighting in Afghanistan preserving the right of free speech. Here we have Canadians willing to ban someone for not having the same ideology as some of the posters. It is very similar to the Taliban killing and destruction of persons and artefacts that did not correspond to their way of life. Is not Canada a nation of free speech and ideas? So, if I make a remark about post containing the politically incorrect assault shotguns that have been veiled in the media to be posted in another section, that makes me a Taliban in Canadian eyes. I have a 9 shot Benelli that I have used for backup on pheasant shoots. I have also 39 prohibs among many other guns. Do I post them on a website? NO! Why? I would not give the opportunity to the antis to use this. If one would like a pic of one of these guns, I would email him personally.

Claybustr, the web is a maze of hearsay, truths and untruths. I do write not for one, but for several publications, in my spare time. I have done this for over 20 years. It is not my bread-and-butter, far from it! I do not do it for income; I am very well remunerated for my other abilities. It pays for over 8 weeks of vacation time every year, most of it shooting around the world! I will be this year in Morocco, France, Italy, Austria and the Czech Republic shooting clays. Besides, shooting a good number of events in Canada and the US, most over 100 entries, I usually do well. As for my clay shooting skills, you are quite misinformed! I do have my ups and downs, specifically with some of the smaller Canadian shoots that have target visibility problems. Here are a few posted results from shoots that had over 80 guns:
http://www.losttarget.com/quebec/2006/0306roue/FB2006.htm
Who is # 4?
Who finished top 10 at 3 Traveller tough shoots last spring?
Who shot a top 15score over 639guns on Benelli in Lonato?
http://forums.shotgunsports.com/messageview.cfm?catid=39&threadid=4310&STARTPAGE=2&enterthread=y
Who finished tied 9th overall/125 guns! beat all the AAs and US Team Members, at the Bud Wolfe Classic in Markham this December?
I have never been a C shooter. Maybe someone might think of me as such. That is his prerogative. NSCA screwed up class system has me as B. The Connecticut Travelers with their Traveller Tough targets have me as Class1. I shoot more Traveller targets than NSCA. Who finished 3rd, was second last year and won the year before the Kingston DU with 80 shooters? Who was in the top 5 for over 5 years at the Leucan shoot in Valcartier?

I don’t shoot competitively anymore. But, once in a while I still do well. I shoot for fun and to meet and mingle with shooting buddies from around the world.

As the saying goes: Bulls**t talks, Money Walks!

The proof is in the pudding!

Wake up and look at the pictures! The bird was shot some 10 yards behind the tree or some 40 yards from the shooter. If you think otherwise, you have not hunted! We hunted, shot and retrieved 475 birds this year. Every bird is recorded. It is up from last year, down from previous years. Our best year was 895 birds, year 2 for Scotch!

Please enjoy your firearm. But be careful where you publicise it.

Happy New Year to all,
Henry:dancingbanana:
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Henry this latest post does nothing to diminish the dismissive tone of your original post. It certainly does reinforce your elitist and egotistical attitude towards other shotguns and their owners.
I wish you success in your quest for approval.... although it aint happenin here...:dancingbanana:
 
What an idiot, I have no tactical shotguns but I want one now.

Hell I am going to get one for grouse hunting, a mini 14 for rabbit hunting and AR180B for coyotes... well if I had the money that is.
 
hnachaj said:
:p Here is what a shotgun is ment to do:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/hnachaj/Hunting 2006/Pillowhit.jpg
Sorry, but for all those SOF want-a-be, shotguns are not ment for use on lock breaking, slug shooting and alley sweeping. While I do have an alley sweeper, it is not used on a regular basis for anything usefull! 99% of shotguns are used for hunting (including deer) and clay shooting!:dancingbanana: Those 12 inch and 18 inch barreled things make a very small minority. The shotgun thread should refer mostly to shotgunning and not a "So Macho" but not realistic space guns in very limited use.

The IPSC and assault guns should be refered to another more appropriate section.

Best regards,
Henry;)
PS: One of the founders of ATPQ or IPSC Quebec btw!
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What does that stupid picture have to do with your stupid post.
 
hnachaj said:
This is very amusing and quite depressing towards our boys fighting in Afghanistan preserving the right of free speech. Here we have Canadians willing to ban someone for not having the same ideology as some of the posters. It is very similar to the Taliban killing and destruction of persons and artefacts that did not correspond to their way of life. Is not Canada a nation of free speech and ideas? So, if I make a remark about post containing the politically incorrect assault shotguns that have been veiled in the media to be posted in another section that makes me a Taliban in Canadian eyes.
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The Taliban are noted for their extreme social ignorance and intolerability of the views of outsiders, much as yourself. So in that respect, yes you share some of the same traits.

For someone that supposedly prizes himself on his abilities, you are remarkably closed minded towards those that may be as good, if not better with LESS. Maybe the fact that people can plug clays or hunt with short barrels speaks to "your" ability. Is someone that can hit a flight of clays with a $2500 OU better than a guy that can do it with a $200 18” pump? Most firearms are multi-purposed and none more so than a shotgun. Due to my location, most of my firearms are shotguns, and I make the most of all of them. I can plug out to 100 yards with my old Ithaca XL900, or bang skeet with the best of them with an 18" Mossberg. Many people make a living using these “lock breaking, slug shooting and alley sweeping” tools for a living, yet you don't see them looking for a hero cookie for their skill, or bash on those that are just learning or have less talents. The whole point of this sport is that you have fun, and experience camaraderie. Obviously another trait that you are lacking.

Lastly, don't you dare assume to use the name of servicemen to defend your narrow-minded views. You may be surprised to learn that many soldiers have a fondness and special skill when it comes to firearms and some of those members may just be members of this community. And yet still, some of those members may also be fans of "tactical" shotguns. ...go figure. I have been deployed to more than one foreign country where our job was to put the curb on narrow-minded elitists like you. I did it for a living, practiced at it, and became quite good at it. To see some POS spewing off that kind of crap like that in MY country really burns me. To use the name of men and women that fight for this country to defend your views is inexcusable. For the record, YOU are not the people we have fought and died for, it was against them.

This is Canada; everyone is entitled to their opinion. The key is that you accept the opinion of others while you do so. I accept your view, but it doesn’t mean it’s right..


…”SOF want-a-be”
 
Henry shot a Canary! This bird is native to the Azores, the Canary Islands, and Madeira. The bird was named after the Canary Islands, not the other way around; "Canary" is derived from the Latin canaria, "of the dogs", referring to the numerous dogs kept by the inhabitants of the islands.

It is 12.5-13.5 cm long, with a wingspan of 20-23 cm and a weight of 15-20 g. It is yellow-green, with brownish streaking on its back. It is about 10% larger, longer and less contrasted than its relative the Serin, and has more grey and brown in its plumage and relatively shorter wings. The song is a silvery twittering like the Goldfinch.

Its habitat is semi-open areas such as orchards and copses, where it nests in bushes or trees, from sea level up to 1,500 m altitude.

It can be found in captivity throughout the world and once it's cage is opened makes a suitable target for shotgunning purist who take great delight in the lovely and colourful puff of feathers that follows a particularly easy shot once branched. The Canary is particularly adept at avoiding shot spewed from any tactical shotgun but falls easy prey to the fancy shmansy expensive types. Expert Canary shooters are advised to keep a keen eye on Canary behaviour as they are reputed for their ability to detect minute level of toxic and notious gases. These are the exact type of fragrant gases expelled by so called purists of any and every kinds on an alarmingly large scale. Although easier still to shoot once they faint from such gases, purist are cautionned to refrain from shooting for fear of igniting said notious gases in the vicinity of their rear ends. This ignition could be devastating for the environment and also have dire consequences for the gas bag...

Happy hunting, troutseeker.
 
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