What about the 16 gauge?

[thomasam]

I'm a 16 gauge lover myself, haven't found 16 gauge shells hard to get here in Alberta, Bass Pro, Cabala's and Wholesale Sports carried it last year and for the last 3 yrs running, even found some Federal Steel, still love going to gun shows and finding some old boxes with paper hulls, Upland hunting is going to be fun again this year!!!!
I can hardly wait.

 

[saskbooknut]

Previously stated about 16 gauge -
It's lighter then a twelve (not always), bigger punch then a twenty (nonsense again, look at all the 3 inch 20 gauge loads). It carries, shoulders, and swings better then both (only in a better proportioned 16 gauge gun than the 20 was).
16 gauge guns are interesting, partly because they are different and scarcer than 20 gauge guns these days. You might even say they are a fashion statement, for the person who wants to stand out from the crowd.
There is no special magic in the diameter of the pipe, though the square load proponents might disagree. The 16 gauge inevitably became obsolete when clay target games focused on 12, 20, 28 and .410 shotguns. The manufacturers of guns and cartridges put all their modern developmental energy into the 20 gauge for upland hunting guns.
Certainly recoil is in proportion to the weight of the shot, powder charge, velocity and weight of the gun. There is no free lunch.
Having said all that, I have a 16 gauge AyA that I am quite fond of.

 

[madtrapper143]

Just added another 16 to my meager collection. Winchester Model 1200 28" FULL choke. Just like new and built around 1965. It swings great and is super smooth. It will work just fine for my needs. Best of all it cost 195.00 (before tax and shipping) I don't over think the 16 from a ballistics POV. I just like it and that's what counts.

Darryl

 

[Westward1]

Previously stated about 16 gauge -
It's lighter then a twelve (not always), bigger punch then a twenty (nonsense again, look at all the 3 inch 20 gauge loads). It carries, shoulders, and swings better then both (only in a better proportioned 16 gauge gun than the 20 was).
16 gauge guns are interesting, partly because they are different and scarcer than 20 gauge guns these days. You might even say they are a fashion statement, for the person who wants to stand out from the crowd.
There is no special magic in the diameter of the pipe, though the square load proponents might disagree. The 16 gauge inevitably became obsolete when clay target games focused on 12, 20, 28 and .410 shotguns. The manufacturers of guns and cartridges put all their modern developmental energy into the 20 gauge for upland hunting guns.
Certainly recoil is in proportion to the weight of the shot, powder charge, velocity and weight of the gun. There is no free lunch.
Having said all that, I have a 16 gauge AyA that I am quite fond of.

Good post.

 

[Brutus]

I view the useful 16 much like the non-magnum 10 gauge 2 7/8s inch hull.

Provides superior killing patterns then the next smaller gauge, without too much recoil.

 

[madtrapper143]

The 16 bore is viewed like the .280 Remington, the .22 Long cartridge and #5 lead shot. Seems like when someone or group tend to endorse it the argument suddenly arises that it is "no better than this gauge" "has less ammo options available" "ammo is hard to find" "most are built on 12 gauge frames" "shooting sports have killed it" I guess all true but it still works and it is not dead by any stretch. As for the .280 the 7MM Mag .270 crowd will slag it, the .22 long was a very usable cartridge in my farm days but "the .22 long rifle was better" and #5 lead was my favourite but #6 and #4 washed it away. I guess what I am saying let the 16 bore lovers alone. If you can't embrace the 16 for what it is then just let it be.

Darryl

 

[saskbooknut]

16 gauge is not dead, just on life support by us old guys who swim against the tide.
As are the. 280 and 7x57, both of which I love by the way. Coincidentally, I always loaded #5 lead for ducks too, way back when.
I always believed in supporting a position based on rational analysis, rather than mythology.
There are some nice old guns in 16 gauge that I find pleasing, but if I was recommending a new small gauge gun to a new shooter, it would be a 20 gauge due to versatility of loads.

 

[madtrapper143]

16 gauge is not dead, just on life support by us old guys who swim against the tide.
As are the. 280 and 7x57, both of which I love by the way. Coincidentally, I always loaded #5 lead for ducks too, way back when.
I always believed in supporting a position based on rational analysis, rather than mythology.
There are some nice old guns in 16 gauge that I find pleasing, but if I was recommending a new small gauge gun to a new shooter, it would be a 20 gauge due to versatility of loads.

We must be related in a past life some how....

Darryl

 

[drslav]

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/20/what-happened-to-the-16-gauge-shotgun/

 

[thomasam]

Picked up a remington model 11 with a polychoke and a marlin model 90 at the Calgary gun show, both 16 Guage. Welcome additions to my collection, the first time I've see a marlin for sale up here, to find it in 16 gauge was quite a find for me
Any one else own one?

 

[Claybuster]

16 gauge is not dead, just on life support by us old guys who swim against the tide.
As are the. 280 and 7x57, both of which I love by the way. Coincidentally, I always loaded #5 lead for ducks too, way back when.
I always believed in supporting a position based on rational analysis, rather than mythology.
There are some nice old guns in 16 gauge that I find pleasing, but if I was recommending a new small gauge gun to a new shooter, it would be a 20 gauge due to versatility of loads.

+1. I'm not one of those guys who gets all misty-eyed about the 16 gauge nor is there anything ballistically magical about it. If I found a desirable gun in 16 I wouldn't turn it down because of the gauge but there's no reason to get one just for the gauge itself. The 16 gauge if necessary but not necessarily the 16 gauge.

 

[kamlooky]

Dunno, I'd rather have a 16 than .410.
Ammo is cheaper too.
Seems the smaller they make chit, the more it costs.
Tizz why I buy me pantelones lawng in the leg and roll the cuffies up.
More clawth fer the ker-ch$ng.

 

[Claybuster]

Dunno, I'd rather have a 16 than .410.
Ammo is cheaper too.

Not quite comparable gauges. If an upland hunter has a 12 or a 20 they are happy with there's no reason to get a 16. If a 16 gauge owner is content with his gun there is no compelling reason to get the gauges on either side unless he's planning some long range geese hunting and feels the need for heavier shot loads.

 

[kamlooky]

Yer rite, wunz a bore.

 

[CZ_Brno]

Kid at the gunshop told me 16ga was dead............

OK.

https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/dominion-arms-single-barrel-shotgun-16-gauge/

 

[saskbooknut]

CZ Brno -
Chinese, much less than interesting single shot, is not an indication of 16 gauge revival. There will never be any Chinese firearms in my house. And most of the Fiocchi ammo in the link is out of stock.

 

[the spank]

I have never felt any desire to own a 16 ga. Then again other than 4 gun skeet I have no need or desire for anything other than a 12 gauge. With the available loads for a 12 ga why bother with the 16 or even 20? Makes no sense to me when you can shoot the same loadings through a 12. Thats my opinion though. If we all thought the same there wouldn't be other choices for those who enjoy the other gauges. Aside from a 12 my next favorite is a 28.

 

[catnthehatt]

I have never felt any desire to own a 16 ga. Then again other than 4 gun skeet I have no need or desire for anything other than a 12 gauge. With the available loads for a 12 ga why bother with the 16 or even 20? Makes no sense to me when you can shoot the same loadings through a 12. Thats my opinion though. If we all thought the same there wouldn't be other choices for those who enjoy the other gauges. Aside from a 12 my next favorite is a 28.

i have owned 16's on scaled 2o frames and they were a dream to hunt with .

I have also owned a few That were built on 12 gauge frames and they were overly heavy .
however ? If I like the gun and how it swings and shoots I don't care sbout the gauge much,
Cat

 

[CZ_Brno]

CZ Brno -
Chinese, much less than interesting single shot, is not an indication of 16 gauge revival. There will never be any Chinese firearms in my house. And most of the Fiocchi ammo in the link is out of stock.

Oh well I got it for the cabin anyway. I'm sure It'll work just fine.

I can get ammo from Can. Tire. although it's only 6 shot. I can dump out the 6 shot and replace it with 7 1/2 in I want. I have an old Lee hand loader I bought from Epps. Hell Can. Tire even had 16 gauge slugs.

Also I have a Euro 1897 very similar in appearance to this one with the sling swivels and everything.

 

[Cintax]

Oh well I got it for the cabin anyway. I'm sure It'll work just fine.

I can get ammo from Can. Tire. although it's only 6 shot. I can dump out the 6 shot and replace it with 7 1/2 in I want. I have an old Lee hand loader I bought from Epps. Hell Can. Tire even had 16 gauge slugs.

Also I have a Euro 1897 very similar in appearance to this one with the sling swivels and everything.

I have been able to by Remington and Federal loads with #7-1/2 or #8 at Bass Pro and Epps. They are usually always in stock at Bass Pro.