What do you do if...?

[Claybuster]

Having encountered bad guys in the past I'm not as trusting as you. And you might be willing to look down when there is an armed person who is trespassing standing in front of you to sniff around for a blood trail but I'm not.

As for ignorant remarks, it's pretty clear you don't need any lessons from me. You're pretty well stocked up already.

 

[senior]

The majority of the hunters in my area are also upstanding. As I noted earlier while I've had problems with poachers and druggies to date I haven't had a problem with a legitimate hunter. Regrettably, others in my township have and in a small community word gets around. All it takes is a few jerks to make all of us look bad.

I would think a very short converstion, time of year & some visual clues should indicate to you what type of person is one your property

 

[senior]

If you had met me I would have invited you along offering a portion of the meat. Most hunters are like that to help improve landowners relations.
How many druggies would do that?

 

[BIGREDD]

I guess we just ain't the great hunters you are, BR.



Just so everyone is clear on BR's version of "ethical" hunting, if you can tell by the amount of blood that the animal is not hit well enough to be dead in the first 200 yards, it's acceptable to just abandon to wounded animal and move on to the next. Why go against the odds. It's only an animal, after all.

Yet another example of how ethics are a regional thing and vary from province to province.

You need to reread that post Joe... where in it does it say that I would abandon a wounded animal? What the hell does knowing a good bleed and being able to track have to do with ethics. You got a lot of jam accusing me of being condescending bud... your the one that just spewed up the regional condescension.
Show me the pics Joe... I have been waiting for years... you got nothing!

 

[joe-nwt]

If they are not hit well enough to go down or lay down in the first 200 yards or so chances are they will survive and you will not find them or jump them for a shot.

I dunno. Maybe your own words?

A couple years ago, I was on a "daybreak" post with my Dad. We were on adjacent corners of a field just hangin' and waiting to see if something might pop out. My Dad took a poke at a buck that was likely at the limmits of his aging eyesite. I heard the shot but didn't see the event. When I walked over about 1/2 an hour later, there was no deer but he felt he had a hit. When we walked over to where the deer was standing. There was a bit of blood but not much. I followed the trail into the bush for a bit and found where the deer had laid down and then got back up again. I returned to the field with the suggestion that we go have coffee and give the deer a chance to stiffen up.

To shorten the story considerably, after many miles through the bush, along a lake, I again let the deer stiffen up while we went for lunch. At about 3:30 in the afternoon, with some additional help, we finally put the deer out of it's misery. The first shot had been a bit forward of it's intended mark, it went through the brisket and blew out the knee on the far side.

Would it have survived? Maybe. But more than likely the coyotes would have had full bellies before that deer drew its last breath. And I have bled more at work than the entire amount that deer lost.

So to suggest that you can tell how bad a deer is hurt by the amount of blood lost is false and you know it. It's is not a practice I live by or would advocate to anyone. If you spill a drop, you use every means at your disposal to spill the rest.

Show me the pics Joe... I have been waiting for years... you got nothing!

Pics of????

 

[Calum]

What do you guys do at night when you shoot an animal and it is dark before you find it... do you carry your guns uncased and loaded after legal shooting time?
Your argument for carrying a firearm while breaking the law is fraught with inconsistencies, but I guess if your willing to break the law common sense and ethics are out the window at that point anyway!

Only if you keep adding more factors until the original answered question becomes irrelevant.
Oh wait...Ontario, never mind.

 

[BIGREDD]

I followed the trail into the bush for a bit and found where the deer had laid down and then got back up again. I returned to the field with the suggestion that we go have coffee and give the deer a chance to stiffen up.

Thanks Joe that is exactly what I suggested in my post... the deer in your sad story lay down very quickly which is an indication of a hard hit!
You keep digging your own hole with your stupid efforts at changing what I said.

So to suggest that you can tell how bad a deer is hurt by the amount of blood lost is false and you know it. It's is not a practice I live by or would advocate to anyone. If you spill a drop, you use every means at your disposal to spill the rest.

You keep inferring things that I did not say... A blood trail can tell you a lot.. I never said a lack of blood means you should quit looking.
You my friend are either very inexperienced or just trolling for a response... either way your not much of a tracker or a debater.

 

[BIGREDD]

Only if you keep adding more factors until the original answered question becomes irrelevant.
Oh wait...Ontario, never mind.

Another Troll flaps his gums with nonsense.... my statement was very clear and relevent to the thread... unlike your east-west trolling.
Answer the question if you can...

What do you guys do at night when you shoot an animal and it is dark before you find it... do you carry your guns uncased and loaded after legal shooting time?
Your argument for carrying a firearm while breaking the law is fraught with inconsistencies, but I guess if your willing to break the law common sense and ethics are out the window at that point anyway!

You and Joe live in the same one dimensional world....

 

[joe-nwt]

You keep digging your own hole with your stupid efforts at changing what I said.

Are these your words?

If they are not hit well enough to go down or lay down in the first 200 yards or so chances are they will survive and you will not find them or jump them for a shot.

How about this part:

Most hunters learn early on that waiting for half an hour is common sense before even starting to track a big game animal.

Wich I did.

When I walked over about 1/2 an hour later, there was no deer but he felt he had a hit.

In fact, this particular hit was not imediately fatal, but still serious.

You keep inferring things that I did not say... A blood trail can tell you a lot.. I never said a lack of blood means you should quit looking.

Well then, explain this statement in case you missed it the first half dozen times I posted it:

If they are not hit well enough to go down or lay down in the first 200 yards or so chances are they will survive and you will not find them or jump them for a shot.

You my friend are either very inexperienced or just trolling for a response... either way your not much of a tracker or a debater.

You are right about the debating part I guess cuz I have no idea how to respond to the rest of your dialog. How do you know what my tracking capabilities are? Have you hunted that particular part of Manitoba before? And even after doing exactly what you said with regards to waiting, I'm still obviously inexperienced?

Hmmmm. You'r right. I am a troll.

 

[Calum]

Another Troll flaps his gums with nonsense.... my statement was very clear and relevent to the thread... unlike your east-west trolling.
Answer the question if you can...

You and Joe live in the same one dimensional world....

My original answer was to simply not pull the trigger unless you know your location in relation to other peoples properties...hence the map, and GPS.

How is that one dimensional?

Also not everyone is willing to slash the throat on their wounded Deer, and more then a few hunters over the years have been seriously injured doing so....I don't know about you, but being injured in the middle of nowhere doesn't sound like a safe plan to me.

BTW I wouldn't try walking away from a wounded animal or carcass, and coming back unarmed in Bear country either.

 

[BIGREDD]

Hmmmm. You'r right. I am a troll.

The only true thing you have posted on this thread Joe.

My original answer was to simply not pull the trigger unless you know your location in relation to other peoples properties...hence the map, and GPS.

How is that one dimensional?

Also not everyone is willing to slash the throat on their wounded Deer, and more then a few hunters over the years have been seriously injured doing so....I don't know about you, but being injured in the middle of nowhere doesn't sound like a safe plan to me.

BTW I wouldn't try walking away from a wounded animal or carcass, and coming back unarmed in Bear country either.

Now what exactly does that have to do with the thread or what I said?
Slash the throat... where did that come from?

Troll on fellas I am done with your idiocy....

 

[Sharkson]

The only true thing you have posted on this thread Joe.

Now what exactly does that have to do with the thread or what I said?
Slash the throat... where did that come from?

Troll on fellas I am done with your idiocy....

Sorry man, but that's uncalled for. These fellas have been pretty reasonable and literate about the whole thing.

BTW I wouldn't try walking away from a wounded animal or carcass, and coming back unarmed in Bear country either.

Oh yeah, time for a............wait for it..........BEAR DEFENSE THREAD WHILE FOLLOWING A WOUNDED DEER ONTO PRIVATE PROPERTY.

 

[MusicianShooter]

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[Calum]

All this talk of deer getting back up, makes me want to put the bayonet back on the SKS for deer season next week!

+2! Yah never know, and I can't think of a better rifle for bear defence while following a wounded deer on private property.

 

[senior]

Oh wait...Ontario, never mind.

Now what in hell is that supposed to add to any thread except to stir some unneccessary #### The only thing it does is tell me something about you

 

[joe-nwt]

The only true thing you have posted on this thread Joe.


Troll on fellas I am done with your idiocy....

Don't go away mad, BR.

But if you must go, here is a parting gift....

 

[Brian46]

Well - I'd think twice about "crossing the line" A lot of landowners put up no hunting signs because they are hunting the land themselves, and dont want other folks on their land.
I think I'd make the effort to get to know the situation across the line before the hunt, BTW, that could benefit you if wounded animals come your way.

If a landowner posts a no hunting sign and is hunting on his own land, that is not legal and I would report him for it. All he is trying to do is preserve his hunting area and going about it in the wrong way.

 

[joe-nwt]

If a landowner posts a no hunting sign and is hunting on his own land, that is not legal and I would report him for it.

Is that true? Can you supply more info?