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What if I am not a meat hunter? What do I do with the deer?
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Thanks for YOUR interpretation... you are in the firmly in the minority here Kenny!
I suggest you go back and re-read the thread and then think about what you are saying.
Cereal I am glad you started this thread and are considering everyones opinion... I sincerely hope you rethink your motives for shooting a deer.
Hey all,
I am still reading everybodyes opinion and am glad your making it clear to me. As I have said, I am going to go hunting with my old family friend and see if I like it. If I don't then I won't try it again but if I do like it then I will try to do it every year.
I know some of you are agaisnt this type of hunting but I am not like this for every animal, just deer and there has to be others like me who are just not saying anything. I will rethink it alot more knowing how all of you guys feel.
I also want to make it clean, I am not going to reregister under a new name. I would have if everybody on this board was calling me a moron and a lame excuse of a hunter but most of you have something positive to say and are saying what you think I should do which I appreciate.
Thanks
I am still reading everybodyes opinion and am glad your making it clear to me. As I have said, I am going to go hunting with my old family friend and see if I like it. If I don't then I won't try it again but if I do like it then I will try to do it every year.
I know some of you are agaisnt this type of hunting but I am not like this for every animal, just deer and there has to be others like me who are just not saying anything. I will rethink it alot more knowing how all of you guys feel.
I also want to make it clean, I am not going to reregister under a new name. I would have if everybody on this board was calling me a moron and a lame excuse of a hunter but most of you have something positive to say and are saying what you think I should do which I appreciate.
Thanks
You have to expect bad reactions with this kind of post ,especially when hunters are constantly under attack for hunting.You have made a wise decision-go hunting with a person who likes deer.Also maybe try deer cooked a different way.There is always a different way to prepare the meat to affect the flavor.
Good luck
Good luck
I know a guy who loves fishing-but is allergic to fish-so he is strictly catch and release,except for fish he can't release unharmed, so he gives it away.However since ''catch and release'' is not an option for hunters,
there is no issue with anyone hunting as long as he strives to make a humane kill and then properly cares for the meat and removes it to a place of consumption-but whether he eats it himself or gives it away is not an issue or question of ethics.
I have far more issue with the guy who takes marginal shots, fails to make a concerted effort to follow up his shot, or trys to see how far away he can hit an animal.
there is no issue with anyone hunting as long as he strives to make a humane kill and then properly cares for the meat and removes it to a place of consumption-but whether he eats it himself or gives it away is not an issue or question of ethics.
I have far more issue with the guy who takes marginal shots, fails to make a concerted effort to follow up his shot, or trys to see how far away he can hit an animal.
I know a few guys that hunt with us that are not too fond of deer meat. I say, hunt with a group, if you know someone who will take the meat what is the big deal? Just don't waste any of it, you could get in serious trouble if you do.
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Answer:cereal83 said:
What's behind door #3. I wouldn't 'prefer' either of the 2 options - your ethics differ from mine.
I don't liken coyotes to trophy killings only either, shooting varmint serves multiple puposes including predator management.
Don't get me wrong, I am not standing on a podium and yelling my dis-taste. Simply expressing how I feel about you, said it once and it is worth repeating, You are an idiot!
Bad deer meat
Cereal, I too was out for deer dor the first time this year and had the good fortune to be with a number of exp. hunters during the trip. In the past I have had deer meat given to me that was god awfull to try and eat, just rank. On this trip I was shown how to properly care for venison from the time it was shot,skinned and butchered. All the deer meat we got has wonderful flavour and I can't wait to go and do again next season. The deer I shot were young does, as thats what I had tags for and as one of my hunting buddies pointed out those young animals will be very tender eating, like veal baby!!
So go out and shoot a deer and learn about handling the meat and skinning the animal and proper field dressing of your game. I got a series of videos and did my own butchering, its not that difficult with a good set of knives, and I thought it was kinda fun actually. If you handle the meat with some TLC and do give it away, the people you give it to will be thankful. I have heard that animals that have been running all day can be very tough eating, oh ya and don't shoot one in the guts. FS
Cereal, I too was out for deer dor the first time this year and had the good fortune to be with a number of exp. hunters during the trip. In the past I have had deer meat given to me that was god awfull to try and eat, just rank. On this trip I was shown how to properly care for venison from the time it was shot,skinned and butchered. All the deer meat we got has wonderful flavour and I can't wait to go and do again next season. The deer I shot were young does, as thats what I had tags for and as one of my hunting buddies pointed out those young animals will be very tender eating, like veal baby!!
So go out and shoot a deer and learn about handling the meat and skinning the animal and proper field dressing of your game. I got a series of videos and did my own butchering, its not that difficult with a good set of knives, and I thought it was kinda fun actually. If you handle the meat with some TLC and do give it away, the people you give it to will be thankful. I have heard that animals that have been running all day can be very tough eating, oh ya and don't shoot one in the guts. FS
"...leaving a deer dead in the middle of nowhere..." That's illegal.
Trophy hunters are really just hunting for the biggest deer or whatever they can find. Very few don't eat the meat or donate it to a charity. Do a net search for Ted Nugent. He is heavily involved with 'Hunters Feeding the Hungry" or whatever it's called. Mind you, venison is fabulous meat. There's a constant arguement over which meat tastes better. Moose or deer. Properly cared for in the field and cooked right, both are terrific.
Trophy hunters are really just hunting for the biggest deer or whatever they can find. Very few don't eat the meat or donate it to a charity. Do a net search for Ted Nugent. He is heavily involved with 'Hunters Feeding the Hungry" or whatever it's called. Mind you, venison is fabulous meat. There's a constant arguement over which meat tastes better. Moose or deer. Properly cared for in the field and cooked right, both are terrific.
open-sights said:
Well I love your attitude. I am an idiot becuase I want to kill an animal without eating it. I want to see what it is like to hunt deer but I don't like the taste of it so I am an idiot. I am trying to figure out how to get rid of the meat the best way possible but I am an idiot. LOL I love people like you. Ignorance is BLISS buddy!
BTW, nothing behind door #3 or else I would have mentioned that in my original post.
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cereal, i live an hour from toronto and i would gladly come to your house to pickup the meat. then, ill send you some jerky that will make you love deer meat ;-)
I suspect you guys who are ripping at Cereal83 would be ripping at a person for hunting Grizzly Bears because they are shot just for the trophy and not for the meat. At least Cereal83 is trying to line up a person who will take the meat. The meat from a Grizzly Bear, most of the time, is left in the bush.
Well, you could always weight till it stiffens up a bit then stand it up in your front yard and cover it with Christmas decorations. Then you could mount wheels on it and give all the kiddies a ride. It could be lots of fun for the whole neighbourhood until the spring.
Seriously, I've seen to much game meat dumped at the dump (or in the bush)that has been sitting around in freezers for two years. Some guys will shoot a moose, an elk and there limit of deer because they can. If you don't have a plan for the meat, take a picture.
Seriously, I've seen to much game meat dumped at the dump (or in the bush)that has been sitting around in freezers for two years. Some guys will shoot a moose, an elk and there limit of deer because they can. If you don't have a plan for the meat, take a picture.
walksalot said:I suspect you guys who are ripping at Cereal83 would be ripping at a person for hunting Grizzly Bears because they are shot just for the trophy and not for the meat. At least Cereal83 is trying to line up a person who will take the meat. The meat from a Grizzly Bear, most of the time, is left in the bush.
Thats a very good point. I didn't know people didn't eat bears but now I know which is always a good thing. Thanks for letting me know
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cereal83,
Good for you! I wouldn't change my account if I were you either. Your question was a valid one, and you have nothing to be ashamed of. Rather, I'd say your reaction to being unfairly flamed shows a level of maturity and thoughtful consideration that we could use more of on this board.
Consider this: If your plan is so despicable, why then do we have charities who publicly announce their conditions for accepting such meat? Why do we have so many examples of hunters who share their catch with others? Are they not morally and ethically bound to eat it all themselves?
I think that those who have come down on you as if you're lower than a snake in a wagon rut probably were a little hasty in their assessment of what you're proposing. For that, I think they need to be cut some slack, too. Still, there's no need to resort to flaming a guy or name calling. If you disagree with someone else's opinion, simply say so. Perhaps include a few of your reasons. You may find that the other person accepts your opinion and comes around to your way of thinking. How likely is that if you start abusing the guy right out of the chute.
I, too, have certain game that I don't particularily like. I used to be a big duck hunter in my youth. But, I soon discovered that I don't much like wild duck. So, I quit hunting them, but not just because I didn't like the taste. I also found the long periods of sitting in damp, cold blinds to be less than satisfying (even interspersed with periods of great wingshooting). If I was in the mood for sitting around the ol' slough, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a few ducks - provided I had done my preparation, as you have, and found a home for the meat.
These days, I prefer the long walks in the woods and the fields that come with the upland hunt. To each his own.
Just one thing - lets not forget that all the forms of shooting and hunting that we all hold dear are under attack. We are all "on the same side". That doesn't mean we have to totally agree on every little point. Other than unsafe handling of firearms, mistreating landowners, inhumane killing, or the other behaviours that we can all agree are unacceptable, we could benefit from being a little more open minded.
To reinforce what several others have said, cereal, meat of any kind, but deer meat in particular, can taste strong or musky for a number of reasons - most related to improper field dressing or handling between the kill and the plate. You're wise to go out with an experienced deer hunter to learn the ropes. I'd be surprised if you don't find venison (properly handled) to be one of the best you could eat. Why else would the kings have jealously decreed that all the deer in their respective countries was property of the king. In that day and age, you could be executed for poaching one of the king's deer!
Like the meat or not, you have a right to hunt it. As long as the meat isn't wasted, the animal has been shown the respect it deserves.
SS
Good for you! I wouldn't change my account if I were you either. Your question was a valid one, and you have nothing to be ashamed of. Rather, I'd say your reaction to being unfairly flamed shows a level of maturity and thoughtful consideration that we could use more of on this board.
Consider this: If your plan is so despicable, why then do we have charities who publicly announce their conditions for accepting such meat? Why do we have so many examples of hunters who share their catch with others? Are they not morally and ethically bound to eat it all themselves?
I think that those who have come down on you as if you're lower than a snake in a wagon rut probably were a little hasty in their assessment of what you're proposing. For that, I think they need to be cut some slack, too. Still, there's no need to resort to flaming a guy or name calling. If you disagree with someone else's opinion, simply say so. Perhaps include a few of your reasons. You may find that the other person accepts your opinion and comes around to your way of thinking. How likely is that if you start abusing the guy right out of the chute.
I, too, have certain game that I don't particularily like. I used to be a big duck hunter in my youth. But, I soon discovered that I don't much like wild duck. So, I quit hunting them, but not just because I didn't like the taste. I also found the long periods of sitting in damp, cold blinds to be less than satisfying (even interspersed with periods of great wingshooting). If I was in the mood for sitting around the ol' slough, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a few ducks - provided I had done my preparation, as you have, and found a home for the meat.
These days, I prefer the long walks in the woods and the fields that come with the upland hunt. To each his own.
Just one thing - lets not forget that all the forms of shooting and hunting that we all hold dear are under attack. We are all "on the same side". That doesn't mean we have to totally agree on every little point. Other than unsafe handling of firearms, mistreating landowners, inhumane killing, or the other behaviours that we can all agree are unacceptable, we could benefit from being a little more open minded.
To reinforce what several others have said, cereal, meat of any kind, but deer meat in particular, can taste strong or musky for a number of reasons - most related to improper field dressing or handling between the kill and the plate. You're wise to go out with an experienced deer hunter to learn the ropes. I'd be surprised if you don't find venison (properly handled) to be one of the best you could eat. Why else would the kings have jealously decreed that all the deer in their respective countries was property of the king. In that day and age, you could be executed for poaching one of the king's deer!
Like the meat or not, you have a right to hunt it. As long as the meat isn't wasted, the animal has been shown the respect it deserves.
SS
Hey Cereal,
Try this. The day you go hunting for the deer, make sure you have some fresh crusty rolls at home. After you shot your deer and hang/dress it, remove the backstraps. Get your hunting buddy to help if need be. Slice the backstraps into pieces about a 1/2" thick. Dip in flour and brown them in a pan with some oil. Salt and pepper and a bit of garlic powder, don't overdo it! Remove the 1/2 cooked, browned meat from the pan and set aside. Take 1 or 2 large onions, cut into 1/2" slabs also, and break the rings apart in the same pan you browned the meat in. Saute'/brown the onions a bit, then throw the meat back on top in the pan. Pour about a1/4 cup of water over the whole works, turn the heat down to a simmer and put the lid on. Let it simmer for about 1/2 an hour.
When it is ready, open up one of the crusty rolls and throw some meat/onions inside and enjoy with a beer. If that don't convert you, you might be hopeless!
Try this. The day you go hunting for the deer, make sure you have some fresh crusty rolls at home. After you shot your deer and hang/dress it, remove the backstraps. Get your hunting buddy to help if need be. Slice the backstraps into pieces about a 1/2" thick. Dip in flour and brown them in a pan with some oil. Salt and pepper and a bit of garlic powder, don't overdo it! Remove the 1/2 cooked, browned meat from the pan and set aside. Take 1 or 2 large onions, cut into 1/2" slabs also, and break the rings apart in the same pan you browned the meat in. Saute'/brown the onions a bit, then throw the meat back on top in the pan. Pour about a1/4 cup of water over the whole works, turn the heat down to a simmer and put the lid on. Let it simmer for about 1/2 an hour.
When it is ready, open up one of the crusty rolls and throw some meat/onions inside and enjoy with a beer. If that don't convert you, you might be hopeless!
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Ten pages, and I still get no venison, how fair is that?
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