What kind of accuracy do you get from your .22LR?

The temp got to the positive side of 0, so I shot these today with an ISSC Mk22 Scar Jr. at 50 yards with a 14km crosswind.

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While they're not horrific, I was expecting better. I hate to make excuses, but the Burris AR-332 simply doesn't cut it as a good optic for shooting groups. I like it for everything else, but bullseyes are a challenge. My first Scar Jr. had a 2-7x on it for a bit, and groups were probably 30-40% smaller with it, while requiring a lot less effort on my part.

It is what it is though, and it's definitely minute of gopher or pop can out to 50m, which is all that really matters with a rifle like this.
 
dizzy said:
Eagleye, I have to say I truly enjoy your posts, and the pictures of your targets. Very few really understand what it takes to get 22's to shoot anywhere near what yours do on a regular basis.

The Zero on the 150 on the side of the suhl in the picture is what this suhl regularily shoots at 50 yards (5 shot group)
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Thanks, Dizzy; I Love the way your Suhl looks!!
Are they not wonderfully accurate 22's?

AWOL said:
I fixed it for you...

If you get 1.5" at 100 yards with your .22, you are doing very well. A few guys here like eagleye & mystic strive for perfection which take time, practice & MONEY. Getting a .22 to shoot sub MOA requires lots more than any .22 with a bit of skill. 3/4 of the guys suggesting sub MOA with some beater Lakefield semi or cooey are BS grinders. Don't buy into "internet sub MOA" achievements. It simply isn't true.

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AWOL: Truer words were never spoken!!
Time, Time, and more time at the range. [hoping for calm days]
Trying out 10 different types / lot numbers of ammo to find out what works best.
Most decent ammo runs $12.00 to $15.00/50, and it usually takes a couple of boxes to even establish a decent trend in that specific ammo.
Then time spent finding what the tuner will do for you [if equipped]
- more ammo, likely 2-300 rounds.
If more of these "armchair experts" actually realized what is involved, they would not post such laughable claims here, especially with bulk ammo and fireams that are fair, at best.
It appears to me that some will shoot one very nice 3 - shot group out at some long distance, [never to be repeated] but will then post, claiming their rifle/ammo combination will shoot like this repeatedly.
I believe in 5 & 10 shot groups, and more than one of them, [10 groups being a good start] to prove anything.
Regards, Eagleye.
My Jim Williams Built Suhl 150 + 36X Leupold. The target was shot at 50, the groups are 10-shot.
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Eagleye said:
Thanks, Dizzy; I Love the way your Suhl looks!!
Are they not wonderfully accurate 22's?
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Thanks Eagleye. A little afternoon tinkering and this color scheme emerged. Have the boys names and jersey numbers painted on the flip side. Suhls are amazing. I have shot several walther match rifles, many anschutz rifles and plenty of others but nothing as accurate as the suhl. It's really an amazing rifle with an unbeatable trigger. This rifle is tired but still the most accurate 22 I own, the others are no slouches. The only other 22 I have shot that I find to be almost as good is a Unique, which was made to compete back in the day.

That Suhl of yours is likely the most accurate 22 in the country.

You are absolutely right about groups and consistency. It takes hours and hours of shooting small groups to get consistent at shooting tiny groups with 22's, and those little groups don't happen with cheap gear and poor ammo.
 
I read what Eagleye said about one group that they could not shoot again. and i agree that happens alot. Good shooting Eagleye.

Here are 3 targets shot on the same day all 5 shot groups at 144 yards

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dizzy; My Suhl may not be THE most accurate in the country, but I'm sure it is well up there.
I have shot a lot of very accurate 22's, including Feinwerkbau, Anschutz, etc, etc.
This Suhl puts them all to shame.
So much so my Anshutz 54 match that I sold it.
I was lucky enough to stumble on a Lot # of ELEY Match EPS [Black Box] that it truly loves, so bought up a couple of cases of it.
Good ammo is vital, as you know.
Clayne b; Those are very respectable 5-shot groups at that range.
Were you using the CCI Target ammo in the picture?
If so, it is working well in your rifle.
Eagleye.
 
Eagleye - your 50 yard groups are impressive. Your measurement for them is smaller than I would have measured them (not a dig just a different method)but they are still very impressive. I have a rifle that can get those kinds of groupings at 50 but not as consistently (most likely my fault). The 10 shot 100 yard groups you posted are absolutely amazing and I couldn't touch them on my best day. Takes a serious rifle and serious skills to be able to do that at 100 yrds. Well done!
 
My Savage 64 shooting cheap ammo (the winchester 555 pack of 36gr hollow points) I get 2inch groups at 90 yards (greatest yardage I could get on test day). Using nicer ammo (CCI Lead Round Nose) I get it down to about 1 1/4" or so from a bipod. Using a shooting rest I get it to about an inch on a calm day with a slight breeze. I've never had PERFECT test conditions since I live in the city...I have to take what I can get. Outdoor target shooting is a bit of a rarity in these parts.

The SR-22 has not had a single round down its barrel yet...hoping to change that this weekend but I will sight it in for 50 yards.
 
Eagleye said:
dizzy; My Suhl may not be THE most accurate in the country, but I'm sure it is well up there.
I have shot a lot of very accurate 22's, including Feinwerkbau, Anschutz, etc, etc.
This Suhl puts them all to shame.
So much so my Anshutz 54 match that I sold it.
I was lucky enough to stumble on a Lot # of ELEY Match EPS [Black Box] that it truly loves, so bought up a couple of cases of it.
Good ammo is vital, as you know.
Clayne b; Those are very respectable 5-shot groups at that range.
Were you using the CCI Target ammo in the picture?
If so, it is working well in your rifle.
Eagleye.
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Thought I read somewhere where Clayne said he has yet to try some match ammo in his scout. Those 16 inch barrel cz's are very impressive.

A guy should never shoot a suhl. Once you do shooting other 22's can be a bit of a let down. Anschutz's are okay. Finding a great one is not easy. I went through 7 before I found a keeper, it was made in 1966.
 
dizzy said:
A guy should never shoot a suhl. Once you do shooting other 22's can be a bit of a let down. Anschutz's are okay. Finding a great one is not easy. I went through 7 before I found a keeper, it was made in 1966.
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This is soooo true. Accurate 22's are common. Accuracy like the Suhl delivers is rare. :D
Eagleye
 
My 93R17 BTVS shot better than 1 MOA 5 shot groups with almost all 17 HMR ammo except Winchester ammo.
I sold it because 17 HMR is simply too expensive to shot a 0.25$ to 0.30$ a round.
A superb rifle if you can afford the overpriced ammo.

Alex
 
AlexF said:
My 93R17 BTVS shot better than 1 MOA 5 shot groups with almost all 17 HMR ammo except Winchester ammo.
I sold it because 17 HMR is simply too expensive to shot a 0.25$ to 0.30$ a round.
A superb rifle if you can afford the overpriced ammo.

Alex
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17hmr doesn't have a cheap ammo option, unlike 22 rimfire. I've tried the 20 gr winchester 17hmr, which is a bit cheaper, and it doesn't shoot nearly as well as the 17 grain. High end 22 rimfire ammo, which it appears these shooters are using to get that phenomal accuracy at 100 plus yards is probably around 3/4 or more of the price of 17hmr.
 
i had a .22lr lever henry. i shot iron sights with it for a month or two. i kept missing and it was fustrating. i put a 3x9 scope on it and bench shot at 50m to check grouping. on the best day with good ammo i was maby 3" usial around the 4-5 mark. sold that gun. got a laver of a .22wmr cz452. and picked up a old husquvarna single .22 and any clay inside of 75 yard i drill every time on irons. im happy now
 
Minute of gopher with AE Hollow points or when I use CCI Stingers or the Quick Shock I need a little bit of Alberia Windage.(from 10 feet to 75 yrds.)
That was with my Sako Fin fire than I should never have sold, but has now been replaced with a Browning A-bolt that has yet to see the gopher patch around the Finnegan Ferry on the RedDeer River.
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
For the non match grade semi auto rifles. Myself and a friend both get just under 1 moa at 100 meters with T/C R55 benchmark semi autos. I was more than a bit surprised. That's with CCI standard. Not in the same league as what some are posting but still it's a lot of fun shooting shotgun husks and those small metal 22LR spinning targets at 100 meters. Wind is the biggest factor. No wind and you don't miss. Even a slight breeze will knock that 22LR around pretty good.

This is a reasonable setup to accurately shoot at 100 meters. You're not going to win any competitions but it's very respectable and fun.
 
I know there are very few "cheap" guns that shoot very well, but i guess i got a good one.

I shot these two 5 shot groups today in perfect conditions with CCI Standard Velocity using "cheap" williams aperture sights. Not in the bull, but i was shooting to see what it could do with little time to play;

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Using this sub $450 gun with the worlds worst stock... soon to be replaced.
Easily the most absurdly accurate savage i've ever owned.

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I bought it for a cheap fun gun, but it is showing some serious potential, enough that i might need to take it seriously.
 
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