What makes a collectible rifle collectible?

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"What makes a collectible rifle collectible?" Can a re-worked, re-furbished electro-penciled firearm whose only remaining character comes from being stacked ten deep on a pallet in a Eastern European warehouse for 40 years really be considered collectible?

Does a case of SKS rifles from Milarm and a couple refurb 91/30s from P&S Militaria make your a collector?

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Deltasilver said:
"What makes a collectible rifle collectible?" Can a re-worked, re-furbished electro-penciled firearm whose only remaining character comes from being stacked ten deep on a pallet in a Eastern European warehouse for 40 years really be considered collectible?

Does a case of SKS rifles from Milarm and a couple refurb 91/30s from P&S Militaria make your a collector?

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The colection can start with one rifle,if you have a rifle with a colection value you can identified yourself as a colector
 
I consider all my firearms a collection, Just some are more collectable than others. I think what influences that for me is; 1) Can someone go and but it tommorow? 2) Do a many people have a strong desire to have one? Ex I consider my Colt 6920 more collectable than my Rem 870. Also it depends if your using it or not. I have only put 60 rounds down my 6920 and that is prob gonna be it for its lifetime.
 
Deltasilver said:
"What makes a collectible rifle collectible?" Can a re-worked, re-furbished electro-penciled firearm whose only remaining character comes from being stacked ten deep on a pallet in a Eastern European warehouse for 40 years really be considered collectible?

Does a case of SKS rifles from Milarm and a couple refurb 91/30s from P&S Militaria make your a collector?

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The re-working, electro-pencilling, etc are all part of the rifle's legitimate military history. Altering the rifle to erase or obscure that history (removing shellac off of RC98s etc) ruins the collectability, because it ruins the authenticity of the piece - and all that piece will ever be is a reworked rifle. Might as well be authentic than a humped up bubba.
 
If you have a load of different match books you are a collector
If you have lots of "beaney babies" you are a collector.
It doesn't matter what the item is.

As Skirson said, it's all part of history.
 
In my opinion, a collector is any person who obtains examples of a specific thing (milsurp rifles) using a reasonable expenditure within thier means and who researches it, learns about it, gets to know the thing he collects. It can start with anything, a Grandfather's hand-me-down Lee Enfield, to buying your first milsurp arm. I believe the major distinction collectors face is VALUE. How much is the rifle worth TO THEM compared to the market. What creats the market? Collectors wanting a specific thing in short supply which jacks up the price, as far as I see it. There are people here on CGN like myself who have only 5 rifles or so. There are those with 50. Amount doesn't make a collection, as you could only have 2 rifles, but they could be, let's say, PTRD Russian Anti-Tankers, or you could have 20 Mosin Nagant M91/30's of different dates. What DOES make the collection, is what it means to the individual collector. If you have a rusted, barely functioning C-96 Broomhandle, it may look virtually worthless to a collector, but to you, your great-grandfather carried it and suddenly, it becomes priceless. The great thing about milsurps is they tend to be plentiful and "reasonable" in price. Once again, within your means. Just my two cents.
Cheers,
Drachenblut
 
We humans are pack rats. We collect anything, for any reasons, within our economic abilities, all the up Tiger Woods kind, who collect ###y blondes because they can :)
 
Deltasilver said:
"What makes a collectible rifle collectible?" Can a re-worked, re-furbished electro-penciled firearm whose only remaining character comes from being stacked ten deep on a pallet in a Eastern European warehouse for 40 years really be considered collectible?

:popCorn:
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Yes, I believe that they are still collectible as they are legitimate military issued firearms with history that extents past the Second World War. Some people disagree but that's their personal opinion / choice based on what they want to collect. Anything is "collectible". Some people collect battlefield found relics while others consider it to be worthless, rusty junk. To each his own. It all depends on your interests and why you are collecting. If you are overly concerned about the future value of your items then history has shown that the more original and better condition the item is the better. Also, if you can't afford to pay for an unmolested original rifle due to it's desirability then you will need to find an item that you can afford.
 
I view the collector part as owning a piece of history. When I hold my rifles, I wonder who held them last, did they participate in any battles, did they fire a fatal shot for a soldier that never came home.

The other side of the coin is all firearms (with the exception of my SKS) would have been used by my grandfather, great grandfather, and great - great grandfather and that is special to me.

There are many definitions and opinions about what makes a collector a collector but here is my view.
 
A Khyber pass gun from the point of view of wanting to shoot it ?

Just about anything firearm is collectible in one fashion or another.
 
Nabs said:
I view the collector part as owning a piece of history. When I hold my rifles, I wonder who held them last, did they participate in any battles, did they fire a fatal shot for a soldier that never came home.

The other side of the coin is all firearms (with the exception of my SKS) would have been used by my grandfather, great grandfather, and great - great grandfather and that is special to me.

There are many definitions and opinions about what makes a collector a collector but here is my view.
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All good answers but my favorite I think. Closest to my own point of view anyway;)
 
Nabs and I are of the same mind. I know that most of my rifles have seen action in the bloodiest wars in history, WWI and WWII, and to hold them in my hands fills me with a sence of understanding, that this rifle in itself is a historian, a chronicle of a time of struggle between nations, a time of war. Each rifle bears marks of war or belongs to a time period of war. As for the uncollectable rifles, I would say Kyber Pass guns top it, from the point of shooting them, and bubba'd rifles from the point of owning them for a military collection.
 
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