What muzzle devise are you using to quite a .223?

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Nemesis Canada. No in not kidding. If sound was the biggest concern when producing a firearm at a weapons manufacturer. Then why didn't all firearms just be outright designed to have a suppressor? I agree 100% that firearms should have them. But all I was saying was that the actual modern day designed use for sound suppressors is for hunting or military use. I'm not saying that suppressors should only be used and made for the purpose of those things.

Actually the modern designed use for suppressors is the suppression of a firearm. In fact in Europe sporting guns do come with integral suppressors and they are often required at some ranges. That Canada prohibits the use of suppressors to everyone but people who shoot humans and a few special license holders doesn't mean that is what they are designed for.

They have one design purpose the effective reduction in muzzle rapport, how this feature is then deployed is not a design requirement.

While I understood that you sort of advocated for suppressors in your post, your description of what they are needed for was incorrect. They are needed to help millions of firearms users minimize the risk of serious hearing injury to themselves and those around them.
 
Ok, so to get back on topic. I'd like a muzzle device that lowers the precived loise level down!
Lol to those who have made actual suggestions, thank you. I was going to order the atrs but at $200 it's a little pricey. I like the cost of the AgW comp, wish I had have known about the $10 off deal. I like the Hara arms comp and have ordered it.
I will post my findings.
 
FFS, after 7 pages of being called out on it, you still can't spell correctly.
And you should do something about your "lol to those", your age is showing.
 
Ok, so to get back on topic. I'd like a muzzle device that lowers the precived loise level down!
Lol to those who have made actual suggestions, thank you. I was going to order the atrs but at $200 it's a little pricey. I like the cost of the AgW comp, wish I had have known about the $10 off deal. I like the Hara arms comp and have ordered it.
I will post my findings.

Here's a thread you might find interesting. It's one you started several months ago on the very topic you've brought up again. There's (40) replies there. Might be some nuggets of info there you missed out on.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?813550-Muzzle-devise-to-quit-a-223
 
oh snap!!!! You three who think I was wrong can eat my shorts!!!!
Are you enlightened now?

So this is your reply to someone who actually tries to give you some helpful pointers? Interesting...

Also although I believe Suputin "I read it on CGN" doesn't count as legal advice and wouldn't stand up in court. Were I actually looking to lower the perceived sound prior to muzzle attachment by 2.5DB I would go out and do the research in the CC or Firearms Act prior to doing so. Seems like an exercise in futility however, but whatever you want to do with your $$$ is up to you, it's still a pretty free country.
 
Hey. Maybe you should read my full post you ignorant fool. Shoulda guessed this post would of come from the likes of you Suputin you tinfoil political crusader.

Firstly I said NEED. Do you NEED a supperssor to operate your firearm? No you don't.

Secondly I agree the law is dumb and I agree that we should have them. AND agree that people have and still do use them safely.



PLEASE pull your head out of space where im sure you come from, and READ the post I made and think a bit more about it BEFORE YOU post. See Siputin! I can make capital letters too :D

freaking troll

You're either attempting to change the context of what you wrote or you weren't effective in commnunicating your actual opinion. Which is it? Here's exactly what you wrote, in its entirety. You said nothing about needing a suppressor for the operation of a firearm. Can you really blame Suputin for responding the way he did?

One thing I found somewhat insulting is your insinuation that people who wish to own suppressors as over zealous movie buffs or gamer wanna-be's. I am neither. Funny, Suputin didn't choose to comment on this. Protecting my hearing while enjoying a hobby I enjoy greatly is my primary motivation. I could care less how "tacti-cool" suppressors look. They aren't accessories to me - they're safety devices.

Haha this thread is funny. Guys lets all agree, we all would like sounds suppressors to be legal. Really, we dont need them unless you hunt people or game. But it's something I feel and I'm sure many of you feel is something that does not need to be banned from our firearms. We're not all Wanting to be James Bond or from call of duty. They are just a interesting addition to our firearms.

Furthermore, Suputin has contributed greatly on the topics of suppressors and the use of subsonic ammunition here on CGN. In fact, I'll go out on a limb here and say he's probably one of, if not the most knowledgeable, member of this site to speak on these topics.

Don't feel all butt hurt because you got called out on something. It happens to the best of us - myself included.
 
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You're either attempting to change the context of what you wrote or you weren't effective in commnunicating your actual opinion. Which is it? Here's exactly what you wrote, in its entirety. You said nothing about needing a suppressor for the operation of a firearm. Can you really blame Suputin for responding the way he did?

One thing I found somewhat insulting is your insinuation that people who wish to own suppressors as over zealous movie buffs or gamer wanna-be's. I am neither. Funny, Suputin didn't choose to comment on this. Protecting my hearing while enjoying a hobby I enjoy greatly is my primary motivation. I could care less how "tacti-cool" suppressors look. They aren't accessories to me - they're safety devices.



Furthermore, Suputin has contributed greatly on the topics of suppressors and the use of subsonic ammunition here on CGN. In fact, I'll go out on a limb here and say he's probably one of, if not the most knowledgeable, member of this site to speak on these topics.

Don't feel all butt hurt because you got called out on something. It happens to the best of us - myself included.

Sweet lord. f:P:
 
(Deleted because Comps/brakes cannot be shipped to Canada because they are considered SME, as pointed out by Tiriaq below.)
 
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Compensators/brakes are now classified as Significant Military Equipment, and are restricted for export.
 
all I was saying was that the actual modern day designed use for sound suppressors is for hunting or military use

You have no clue that you have no clue. Suppressor design today is mostly driven by civilian sales. While some states do allow suppressed hunting, most don't. The vast majority of silencer sales in the US is to sport shooters. If the silencer makers were waiting for military sales they'd all go bankrupt.

While silencers are made in many other countries, it is the US market that is driving suppressor technology forward at a rapid rate.

You can ##### and whine and complain and call me a troll but all that is just a smoke screen for the fact you are talking out your @ss on this subject.
 
Compensators/brakes are now classified as Significant Military Equipment, and are restricted for export.

Crap! I was planning on ordering the Troy for myself for a future short barrel build. I've put in the question to their customer service to verify. Thanks.
 
Wow, you get that much gas cooling from shaving cream?. I never in a million years would have thought of that.

Shocked the shat out of me too. We metered a 9mm pistol through a 600ml pop bottle full of shaving cream and it was ridiculously quiet for one shot. I have also metered a 22 pistol through shaving cream and a 9mm into a pillow. All those worked just as well as a commercial metal silencer. And there are dozens of other options. I have data from a US friend who metered a potato and a sheaf of tennis balls, both of which produced surprisingly good results.

There is simply no need for scumbags to have a proper silencer when there are so many field expedient options available. The only thing the law prohibiting them does is force the law abiding to expose themselves to damaging levels of noise.
 
Compensators/brakes are now classified as Significant Military Equipment, and are restricted for export.

Just heard back from Brownell's customer service...they confirm that they cannot mail comps or brakes to Canada as you have said. Bummer...
 
You have no clue that you have no clue. Suppressor design today is mostly driven by civilian sales. While some states do allow suppressed hunting, most don't. The vast majority of silencer sales in the US is to sport shooters. If the silencer makers were waiting for military sales they'd all go bankrupt.

While silencers are made in many other countries, it is the US market that is driving suppressor technology forward at a rapid rate.

You can ##### and whine and complain and call me a troll but all that is just a smoke screen for the fact you are talking out your @ss on this subject.

Do you live in the states? Why do you mention a country which allows suppressors in your lame, beating a dead horse argument?

In Canada, what is a suppressors main sale line? Military. end of story.

If we were talking about American suppressors then that's fine. But I don't think we are here are we.

And for the record Suputin. You are a troll and you bloody well know it. Instead of making a civilized point and discussion about this, you turn anti and like some little child in the playground. Pull my head out of my ass??? Really. Grow up and 2bad4u, I couldn't care less if he was the designer of suppressors. He should make his point without being a a-hole.

The point is, we should be allowed suppressors. Who gives a damn what they would be used for. We should be allowed to have them.
 
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