I have a highly customized No. 4 Lee Enfield that shoots nickel sized groups with my handloads, and the 150 gr. Hornday are more that adequate for the local deer. My back-up is my tried and true heavy barrel Ruger M77 in .308. I have that one shooting dime sized groups with 165 gr. Sierra Game Kings. If I'm pushing or walking, I carry a 20 ga. with sabot slugs, and that thing hits like a freight train.