What scope did you put on your M305?
- Thread starter 1leggeddog
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- Iles Aux Grenouilles
Promag M1A/M14 Heavy Duty Steel Scope Mount Model - Pm081A
I've used a Bushnell 10x40 mildot on mine.
I'd have a look at this one from Bushnell. The BDC is for 223 but the ballistics for a 308 are almost identical.
I don't think they are terribly expensive either. Around $200 or so.
It even has parallax which is cool.
http://www.bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/ar-optics/2-12x-40mm
I don't think they are terribly expensive either. Around $200 or so.
It even has parallax which is cool.
http://www.bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/ar-optics/2-12x-40mm
- Location
- New Brunswick
I have a Leupold Var-X II 1-4X20mm with German #1 reticle.....awesome combo.
only down thing is that it is labeled 223 on turrethttp://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-diamondback-3-9x40-riflescope-dead-hold-bdc-reticle
This is what i ended up getting.
Still holding off on the mount. Not sure ill be able to go out this winter to shoot so I'll wait.
This is what i ended up getting.
Still holding off on the mount. Not sure ill be able to go out this winter to shoot so I'll wait.
- Location
- Vernon, BC
Gentlemen
I would like to share some of my own thoughts here, and your welcome to consider them, or discard them as you like.
My purpose here is not to intentionally talk about specific brands or models, but some attributes that you may want your optics package to have.
Mount
Here you want a sturdy solid mount, that will allow repeatable results. The M-14 is an older design, and was not designed with modern optics in mind. So getting a solid and repeatable mounting platform is actually more difficult than one would think. In the past, many accuracy issues with optics on the M-14 could be traced directly to the mount.
With the above in mind, I personally have settled on the CasM mount. It’s a well thought out mount that is solid and repeatable, and in my mind, one of the most important innovations of late for this platform.
True, its not cheap, and you do lose your rear sight. However sometime its simply not possible to everything you want in one package, and at times, compromises must be made. On the up side there is an emergency peep built in mount should the optic fail, so a shooter in the field, is not totally left with out a back up sight.
Optic Characteristics
In speaking with those in the DMR role, the consensus on optics is something in the 3-10x50mm or are 3-12x52 with a 30mm main tube. The idea behind this is to cram as much light as you can into the optic, and if you run a sun shade, it should be no longer than 3". They also recommend MLR reticles (reticles with Mil Lines as opposed to dots). This allows for more accurate range estimation and shot placement as lines are more definitive than dots.
Exposed turrets for windage and elevation adjustments are a must.
The choice of either Mil or MOA reticles, if not dictated, are really up to the shooter, but what ever chosen should compliment, or work with the rest of the gear. For example, the turret adjustment on the optic, should be in the same measure or system as the reticle, and the rifle reticle should also match that of the spotting scope. This makes calling and making correction adjustments quicker.
Reticle illumination, while not mandatary, can be very helpful in low light conditions where night visions optics may not be applicable, but in needs to be adjustable so one can adjust the intensity as required.
The above is what I have gleaned so far, and would be interested to hear any thoughts you all might have.
Regards
AbH
I would like to share some of my own thoughts here, and your welcome to consider them, or discard them as you like.
My purpose here is not to intentionally talk about specific brands or models, but some attributes that you may want your optics package to have.
Mount
Here you want a sturdy solid mount, that will allow repeatable results. The M-14 is an older design, and was not designed with modern optics in mind. So getting a solid and repeatable mounting platform is actually more difficult than one would think. In the past, many accuracy issues with optics on the M-14 could be traced directly to the mount.
With the above in mind, I personally have settled on the CasM mount. It’s a well thought out mount that is solid and repeatable, and in my mind, one of the most important innovations of late for this platform.
True, its not cheap, and you do lose your rear sight. However sometime its simply not possible to everything you want in one package, and at times, compromises must be made. On the up side there is an emergency peep built in mount should the optic fail, so a shooter in the field, is not totally left with out a back up sight.
Optic Characteristics
In speaking with those in the DMR role, the consensus on optics is something in the 3-10x50mm or are 3-12x52 with a 30mm main tube. The idea behind this is to cram as much light as you can into the optic, and if you run a sun shade, it should be no longer than 3". They also recommend MLR reticles (reticles with Mil Lines as opposed to dots). This allows for more accurate range estimation and shot placement as lines are more definitive than dots.
Exposed turrets for windage and elevation adjustments are a must.
The choice of either Mil or MOA reticles, if not dictated, are really up to the shooter, but what ever chosen should compliment, or work with the rest of the gear. For example, the turret adjustment on the optic, should be in the same measure or system as the reticle, and the rifle reticle should also match that of the spotting scope. This makes calling and making correction adjustments quicker.
Reticle illumination, while not mandatary, can be very helpful in low light conditions where night visions optics may not be applicable, but in needs to be adjustable so one can adjust the intensity as required.
The above is what I have gleaned so far, and would be interested to hear any thoughts you all might have.
Regards
AbH
Are we to suppose that Bushnell is using some lighter scope components specifically for this scope than they use in every other scope they make in this price range? I'm thinkin no, they probably just added some target style turrets to a scope they were already making and added a BDC reticle to it - that's my bet anyway.
It might be a fair argument that M14s are known to be hard on scopes and maybe a guy should focus on $1000 tactical Leupolds or $1800 Nightforce for M14s - but my guess is that's cost prohibitive for most Nork shooters.
