Brutus
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I do believe Holosun has small solar collector.
So if your battery runs dead, there is some kind of backup.
I only have a Burris Fastfire so I can't comment as an owner.
what scope would you put on a 45-70
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I do believe Holosun has small solar collector.
So if your battery runs dead, there is some kind of backup.
I only have a Burris Fastfire so I can't comment as an owner.
coyoteshooter
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good peep sights are great...decent size hole and larger ivory front bead or brass ....holoson are great with 2 moa @ 100 no bat worries 5000 hrs auto off ....on.... motion on etc i use them on 3 guns ........scopes....2x tops and long eye relief thats my 2 cents
Winchester1973
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Leupold 2 - 7 x 33 on my Marlin 1895 SBL
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Scope option: Also concur with a Leupold FX-II 2.5 IER (scout scope) + irons if desired. [The Leupold VX-II 2-7x33 IER or other brand variable scout are also option but in just about every application, most will realise that they aren't changing magnification and realistically only leave it between 2-4x, in which case, the FX-II 2.5 is lighter and simpler to begin with]
Red dot option: Many red dots could be suitable (incl battery, solar, etc) but instead of 'full size,' some might prefer the low profile of a pistol-size red dot (eg. Trijicon RMR, Leupold Deltapoint Pro, Sig, Holoson, etc)
Leupold Freedom 1.5 x 4 with either pig plex or MOA reticle. Match made in heaven on Ruger No.1's.
They don't break the bank in price (under 500.00) and they're damn fast on target.
I've got Zeiss in that power range that cost 5X that but really offer very little in practical advantage.
They don't break the bank in price (under 500.00) and they're damn fast on target.
I've got Zeiss in that power range that cost 5X that but really offer very little in practical advantage.
I've tried a bunch of different sighting set-ups on my SBL over the years. Some true scout scopes worked very nicely, but I moved away from them in recent years due to specific eye problems I was developing. These issues have been corrected and I may very well return to a proper scout scope soon...
But I get that a lot of folks just don't care for scope scopes, and they do have certain disadvantages under certain conditions, particularly for folks who aren't comfortable shooting with both eyes open. So...the first thing I would do is insist that the SBL's nice aperture rear sight remain mounted and ready to use, no removing/re-attaching required. Any scope would need to be in quality QD rings for instant removal if desired. And I would completely discard the idea of see-thru or any other extra-high rings. I know a lot of people use them in order to lift the scope up over the rear aperture sight...but they turn a nice-handling gun into an unwieldy 2x4 when it comes to shooting position.
I have long arms and a long neck, and have mounted a couple of different scopes...most successfully a Leupold 2.5x20 Compact...directly in front of the rear aperture. I can barely make this work, and many people with normal human necks and arms can't get it to work at all...just not enough eye relief, meaning in this case that you are looking at only the very centre of the field of view, losing most of it because your eye is just too far from the eyepiece.
For me, the perfect solution is the Leupold VX-2 "Scout" in 1.5-4x28. The reason that I use the quotation marks is simply because this so-called scout scope barely qualifies as such. The eye relief is much shorter than a proper scout scope like the Leupold 2-5x28, the archetypical scout scope and the one that Steyr chose to use packaged with the their Scout rifle back in the day. The VX-2 only has about 7 inches or so of eye relief...which allows you to mount it right in front of the rear aperture, down so low that the eyepiece and objective bells are almost touching the rail. You get a very wide field of view compared to a "real" scout scope, but you still get most of the advantages such as excellent off-eye visibility of the shooting area. And you get the variable power going up to 4x if that turns your crank. The cheek weld, even with a bare stock (no stock pack) is ideal.
The only catch to this set-up is minor, IMHO, but some people who have tried mine hate it: when you are sighting through the scope, the rear aperture is very visible right there in the bottom of the field of view. I suppose some find it distracting; I got used to it very quickly and barely am aware of it now, but I shoot this rifle a fair bit and if you only pick up your gun a week before hunting season this might be an issue for you.
I like my hunting rifles to be outfitted with two scopes in QD rings, pre-sighted-in, so I can take a spare scope with me on any important hunt; an "important" hunt is any one that I can't walk to from my back porch.
I currently have the SBL set up with both a Leupold Compact 2.5 and the Leupold VX-2 Scout, and I even have a Trijicon green dot micro-sight ready on a 45-degree mount which can be quickly slapped on to the front of the rail, either alone or in tandem with the 2.5 Compact. The VX-2 is just slightly too long to allow using the dot sight at the same time.
The only pic I have at the moment shows the gun with the 2.5x Compact; set up this way, persons with shorter arms and/or neck might not be happy. The VX-2 sits in pretty much the same position, and has enough eye relief for anyone to use comfortably.
But I get that a lot of folks just don't care for scope scopes, and they do have certain disadvantages under certain conditions, particularly for folks who aren't comfortable shooting with both eyes open. So...the first thing I would do is insist that the SBL's nice aperture rear sight remain mounted and ready to use, no removing/re-attaching required. Any scope would need to be in quality QD rings for instant removal if desired. And I would completely discard the idea of see-thru or any other extra-high rings. I know a lot of people use them in order to lift the scope up over the rear aperture sight...but they turn a nice-handling gun into an unwieldy 2x4 when it comes to shooting position.
I have long arms and a long neck, and have mounted a couple of different scopes...most successfully a Leupold 2.5x20 Compact...directly in front of the rear aperture. I can barely make this work, and many people with normal human necks and arms can't get it to work at all...just not enough eye relief, meaning in this case that you are looking at only the very centre of the field of view, losing most of it because your eye is just too far from the eyepiece.
For me, the perfect solution is the Leupold VX-2 "Scout" in 1.5-4x28. The reason that I use the quotation marks is simply because this so-called scout scope barely qualifies as such. The eye relief is much shorter than a proper scout scope like the Leupold 2-5x28, the archetypical scout scope and the one that Steyr chose to use packaged with the their Scout rifle back in the day. The VX-2 only has about 7 inches or so of eye relief...which allows you to mount it right in front of the rear aperture, down so low that the eyepiece and objective bells are almost touching the rail. You get a very wide field of view compared to a "real" scout scope, but you still get most of the advantages such as excellent off-eye visibility of the shooting area. And you get the variable power going up to 4x if that turns your crank. The cheek weld, even with a bare stock (no stock pack) is ideal.
The only catch to this set-up is minor, IMHO, but some people who have tried mine hate it: when you are sighting through the scope, the rear aperture is very visible right there in the bottom of the field of view. I suppose some find it distracting; I got used to it very quickly and barely am aware of it now, but I shoot this rifle a fair bit and if you only pick up your gun a week before hunting season this might be an issue for you.
I like my hunting rifles to be outfitted with two scopes in QD rings, pre-sighted-in, so I can take a spare scope with me on any important hunt; an "important" hunt is any one that I can't walk to from my back porch.
I currently have the SBL set up with both a Leupold Compact 2.5 and the Leupold VX-2 Scout, and I even have a Trijicon green dot micro-sight ready on a 45-degree mount which can be quickly slapped on to the front of the rail, either alone or in tandem with the 2.5 Compact. The VX-2 is just slightly too long to allow using the dot sight at the same time.The only pic I have at the moment shows the gun with the 2.5x Compact; set up this way, persons with shorter arms and/or neck might not be happy. The VX-2 sits in pretty much the same position, and has enough eye relief for anyone to use comfortably.
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YUP ! the VX being my first choice ! RJ
1-5, 1-3, 3x. - dan
