What to buy in the summer of 2019 BCL or Stag or Troy

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ive been working like a rented mule last 2 months and the OT has been stacking up.
i just noticed that i will have around $2500 extra that the wife wont mind me spending when all is said and done.

so i thought it was high time i picked up a AR10 type rifle.

now, im not against BCL rifles - infact ive put together 3 AR's using thier stuff and i have no complaints about any of my NEA AR's.

now ive been doing some reading and checking out whats available online and as for right now this is what ive come up with for my options.

(all the following are in 308)

1) i can pick up a STAG10 for about $2050

2) i can pre-order a Troy for around $1800

3) i can pick up a BCL102 for 1500 and i could get a 2nd upper in 6.5 for another 750 so 2250 for both, then minus IOP if that is still around so around $2000 + a little for the BCL with 2 uppers.

so the question comes down to what is a better choice, a Stag or a Troy or a BCL with 2 different uppers?
im not gonna lie, the BCL with the extra upper is looking pretty damn sweet.
but, i do know that BCL (NEA) has had some pains and it can be hit or miss with their stuff - maybe the newer stuff is better, warranty sounds like its getting better and if i need any repairs they are Canadian.
Stag is US but they do have a Left Handed version so that is interesting but not a critical as i shoot majority of life shooting a right handed rifle left.
Troy sounds like its a new version.... so untested maybe?

anyone have anything to add that may help me with my decision?

oh, my purchase would be for hunting with the 308 and some bench work for fun and the 6.5 would be strictly for bench fun.

do any of those 3 have issues with adding after market triggers or do they all readily accept after market stuff?
 
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Personally I like the bcl especially the ambi bolt release and would recommend it but as many who have it will confirm it’s pretty heavy if I were to recommend one of them I would say go for the irunguns stag build it’s got a lighter Faxon barrel and it comes with a better quality bcg if I’m not mistaken carrier I think was the same but bolt was a slightly higher quality metal (don’t quote me on it) just under 8 pounds tho which might be more ideal if your hunting.
 
wayupnorth said:
sorry, 2nd question.
im assuming that the uppers and lowers cant be mixed and matched between brands?
(BCL, Stag, Troy, DPMS, Alberta Tactical, Maccabee)
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BCL / Stag / Troy are all large frame

ATRS and Maccabee are all small frame (ATRS does make a large frame as well, called the Modern Hunter).

Troy is using the same design as BCL, so *maybe* it will interchange... but no one knows since the Troy hasnt had anything but a CAD picture released.

Other than that, no none will interchange as they're all proprietary.

You can find BCL102s for $1000-$1300 nowadays, so for $ wise, its the cheapest. They have had issues, but many also have experienced a great rifle... YMMV (your mileage may vary).

Stag is reputable, but also has had some issues (not nearly as many as BCL), and it appears they were taken care of quickly.

Maccabee has also experienced major to minor issues during their growths.
ATRS has been the most up front with their design and any issues theyve encountered. By and far, the best quality of all the bunch is coming from ATRS.
 
ohhhh to muddy the waters.
i see Maccabee has a military discount!
i wonder what that comes out too be.
oh but then id have to build it.
but i have built 3 AR's so it should be the same.
but i kinda wanted a turn key gun this time.
 
Stag-10 without question.
BCL is having some major problems and owners here have just in past week exposed what could be a pretty major issue for BLC in the latest kaboom thread.
Troy 102? LOL The rifles are now passing their due date and customers who were asked to pay up front still, 12 weeks later don't even have a stinkin photograph of a finished receiver set, let alone a complete rifle. LOL

There is a reason that 1 year after it's official Canadian release, the stag -10 product sells out as fast as it is imported.

that McAbee slr is one i'd stay farrr as phuck away from too LOL
I'd buy the alberta tactical rifles but seriously can't justify the price tag and kinda the same goes for the McAbee..... crazy prices for their receiver sets ….. I ain't that high.


there is no compatability between uppers and lowers for the stuff you mentioned.
 
Decision 1 is what caliber or intent is your new purchase for?

That will decide if you want the "AR10" style, or "AR15" style.

Decision 2 will now come down to $ spent, and peace of mind/gamble
 
koesdibyo said:
Decision 1 is what caliber or intent is your new purchase for?

That will decide if you want the "AR10" style, or "AR15" style.

Decision 2 will now come down to $ spent, and peace of mind/gamble
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my original post said AR10 style in 308 with the option to have a 2nd upper (at some point) in 6.5 under $2500.
 
wayupnorth said:
my original post said AR10 style in 308 with the option to have a 2nd upper (at some point) in 6.5 under $2500.
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Your other posts also mention non AR10 platforms, so it’s unclear as to what you were truly after.

You didn’t say thats what you wanted, you mentioned that was one of the options on the table you’ve been researching
 
I have a BCL that works perfectly, great rifle.
I also have a Robinson Arms XCR L the "L" is for light. 223/556. .300 BLK, 7.68 X 39, 6.8 Spc, 224 Valk, 6.5 Grendale.

What you may be interested in is the "M" model. .308 Win, .243 Win, .260 Rem, 6.5 Creedmore.
They are heavy, however, you can swap out barrels between calibres with relative ease.

The bad news is that they are not cheap. However, they are not restricted.

Rick

BTW if you are new to the AR Platform (15 and 10) then do what the AR history videos by Chris from Small Arms Solutions.
Chris litterly wrote the book on the topic.

Here is his videos on the XCR-M.


 
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And here is Chris's video on the Stag 6.5 Creedmore

Chris also has some great videos on the history of the AR platform


Rick
 
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Like everyone else, STAG 10!
I wouldn't even bother with a 6.5 upper. 308 is really accurate for distances at most ranges, and I prefer it over the 6.5 for hunting.
Besides, the more you practice with the same rifle and round, the better shot you will become.
Essentially, practice with cheap surplus 7.62x51. Get's you used to recoil, muzzle flip, bullet drop, etc. All things that might set you off if you have a 6.5 upper that you also use.
As a fellow hunter, with a Stag, its great knowing I can put one in the heart, and two in the lungs before the moose gets very far.
This is largely due to knowing exactly what to expect (muscle memory) for bullet drop, muzzle rise, etc.

What I do HEAVILY suggest is get a receiver set, and build / get it assembled by a professional.
(Assembling by a professional just saves you money on tools, and takes the guesswork out)
Second choice is go with Ironguns model of the Stag 10, that saves half a pound I believe.

My stock mlok version is very front heavy for trekking and off hand shooting.
With optic, I am at 12.1 lbs, but worst of all is the balance.

Had I built, it would have been around 9.5 lbs, and only cost me 300$ more.

Besides, it's easier to pass through the wife is you spend in smaller chunks of cash, as you get the money.

LOTS of threads on here about recommended parts for assembling a light STAG 10.
 
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