What was the least favorite .22 cal rifle or handgun you owned?
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You would want to clean this one. When I said dirty I didn't mean just the bore, it was sticky and gritty all over and the stock had what appeared to be wet rot. It also smelled bad, like it had been kept in a chicken house.The ranger doesn't/didn't seem too bad...who cleans .22's anyhow?
Here they are in the order they appeared in the ad.
The little ace was the nicest of the lot. It looked to have been cleaned up with 60 grit sandpaper after being salvaged from a house fire. The metal parts, that is. The stock was homemade and I tweaked it a bit so the rifle could be packed with the barreled action on backwards.
I would have to say it's my 2 week old Sig Mosquito. Took it out last weekend and fired about 400-500 rounds of various brands of ammo through it including CCI Mini Mags and I couldn't get through a single magazine without a malfunction. I wasn't able to string more than 4 shots in a row before something would hic-cup!!! I have never had a new gun give me so much grief. One thing you can be sure of is that it's not going to be in my safe after this weekend. This would also be a record for the 'shortest' time I owned a firearm.
Pros: fits nicely in my hands
has a nice weight to it
known and highly regarded brand
nice aesthetics
Cons: failure to eject, stovepipes when it does
failure to feed, slide closes but doesn't strip round out of magazine
slide locks back when magazine still has rounds in it
slide doesn't lock back when magazine is empty
Pros: fits nicely in my hands
has a nice weight to it
known and highly regarded brand
nice aesthetics
Cons: failure to eject, stovepipes when it does
failure to feed, slide closes but doesn't strip round out of magazine
slide locks back when magazine still has rounds in it
slide doesn't lock back when magazine is empty
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Well, I did actually get my Cooey 64 to shoot well and it sent a lot of groundhogs to the happy pasture but CLEAN IT EVERY TIME YOU pass a box of ammo thru it. But the crappiest we ever owned was a Cooey 39. Very low teck and not much fun to shoot. Couldnt even convince the old lady she should learn on it. Course, I was shooting a CZ452 with a Nikon on it so she was having none of that crap. She now has a BRNO CZ468 Trainer that is probably the nicest single shot I have ever seen except for that lovely little falling block I saw at the last show. The 39 might make a good hammer.
I have to agree that a lot of us started out with the lowly Cooey 39 but I will bet that almost every one got something else as soon as they could afford it. If its al ya got to shoot then it aint bad but once you see what other choices there are well... Which probably explains why there are so many out there that dont seem to have been shot a whole lot and a shot out barrel pretty rare. They are a good starter but how many actually shoot one? I have never seen one at Mission amongst ALL of the 22s there including my 4 or 5. However I realise that the 64 taught me to tear down and clean. Or else
i love the cooey 39, but their model 64 has given me grief.
my worse of all time was a model 60 that my great uncle hunted his rabbits with. stock had all this tape on it, took it apart to find a split stock, and the thing never fed a round.
my worse of all time was a model 60 that my great uncle hunted his rabbits with. stock had all this tape on it, took it apart to find a split stock, and the thing never fed a round.
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Least favourite? - Lakefield Mossbeg Mk I .22lr.
edit: reasons:
1: trigger pull is about 15 lbs.
2: bolt is made from soft steel.
3: stock is cut for a 5 year old boy.
4: stock is made of bastard grain (beech?).
5: trigger guard is plastic and broken.
6: difficult to find a place that has parts for it.
Plus side:
1: the scope is okay (one of those Bushnell jobbies with a dovetail built into the tube).
2: my dad bought it for about $5.00 in about 1977, at Canadian Tire.
3: I did kill a. . . - I guess I better leave that part out.
edit: reasons:
1: trigger pull is about 15 lbs.
2: bolt is made from soft steel.
3: stock is cut for a 5 year old boy.
4: stock is made of bastard grain (beech?).
5: trigger guard is plastic and broken.
6: difficult to find a place that has parts for it.
Plus side:
1: the scope is okay (one of those Bushnell jobbies with a dovetail built into the tube).
2: my dad bought it for about $5.00 in about 1977, at Canadian Tire.
3: I did kill a. . . - I guess I better leave that part out.
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Sig Mosquito was the worst .22 ever..... at least at first. I also had constant failures to fire, failures to feed, double feeds, stovepipes, you name it. For the first 500 rounds there was about a 30% malfunction probability. I found the only ammo that it sort of likes is 22 Thunderbolt by Remington, which is surprising since it's not very good ammo... but works much better than the CCI stuff. If you have a Mosquito, make sure you use the softer spring, keep it clean and do not make contact with the slide as it will result in some form of malfunction. Also the rear sight is so loose it wiggles around, the front counter weight/slide extender comes loose all the time and the magazines can jam up.
On the plus side, owning this gun will really hone your malfunction clearing skills as you will be doing it at least once per 10 rounds. So it's good for something....
Also everyone with a SIG Mosquito should inspect the hammer/pin area and check if the hammer hist the pin squarely and evenly. Insert a thin strip of paper and dryfire (empty shell in the chamber) and then look at the marking on the paper. If its not a nice rectangle bring the gun back, you will just have problems. Thats where a lot of the failure to fire come from.
Cheers
On the plus side, owning this gun will really hone your malfunction clearing skills as you will be doing it at least once per 10 rounds. So it's good for something....
Also everyone with a SIG Mosquito should inspect the hammer/pin area and check if the hammer hist the pin squarely and evenly. Insert a thin strip of paper and dryfire (empty shell in the chamber) and then look at the marking on the paper. If its not a nice rectangle bring the gun back, you will just have problems. Thats where a lot of the failure to fire come from.
Cheers
Thunderbolts work well in semis with feeding issues because the lead compound in the bullet is a really hard and doesn't deform when it hits the chamber at a bad angle. Hard lead is lighter than soft lead and is ballistically inefficient and terminally ineffective, but it does feed well.
was i the only one in canada with the ithica 49r?- that was a real pos- used an aluminum frame with 4 screws to run in trunnions-barrel was held in by a single bolt- finally developed a burr and was unsafre to fire- the cases would rupture just ahead of the ring
Remington 597.
I bought this piece of #### to introduce my girlfriend to shooting. I already had a 10/22 for myself and had really good success with it. It's still one of the most reliable and accurate rifles I own. I tried to talk her into one when we were at the gunstore.
Unfortunately she fell in love with the aforementioned 597. I bought it for her and off we went to the range to try it out.
I stripped the rifle, cleaned, and lubed as per the manual and then she proceeded to try the rifle out.
Try being the operative word.
At first the mag wouldn't go into the rifle. You had to force it to get it to click in. Once in the mag directed the The entire time I was messing around the girlfiriend was shooting my ruger with great sucess. I figured enough messing around I'll bring the gun back to the store.
After everyone in the gunstore gave their opinion the general consensus was the mag was the problem so with an exchange mag and a second mag off to the range again.
This time I could get the gun to feed and fire but both mags would fall out every second or third round. Again I gave up my ruger to the little lady to #### around with her gun. I wasn't in the mood to go back to the store again so I shot it with my support hand on the mag holding it in place.
The final straw was when the gun started to fail to eject. It would feed and fire but on extraction it would dump the case in the action and then the bolt would go forward and strip a new round from the mag and both the new round and the empty would get jammed up. The new round would be shaped like a banana after I pried it out of the action.
The next day I took the pos back for a refund and bought her a nice 10/22 carbine. So far it's been the second most reliable gun in the house.
I bought this piece of #### to introduce my girlfriend to shooting. I already had a 10/22 for myself and had really good success with it. It's still one of the most reliable and accurate rifles I own. I tried to talk her into one when we were at the gunstore.
Unfortunately she fell in love with the aforementioned 597. I bought it for her and off we went to the range to try it out.
I stripped the rifle, cleaned, and lubed as per the manual and then she proceeded to try the rifle out.
Try being the operative word.
At first the mag wouldn't go into the rifle. You had to force it to get it to click in. Once in the mag directed the The entire time I was messing around the girlfiriend was shooting my ruger with great sucess. I figured enough messing around I'll bring the gun back to the store.
After everyone in the gunstore gave their opinion the general consensus was the mag was the problem so with an exchange mag and a second mag off to the range again.
This time I could get the gun to feed and fire but both mags would fall out every second or third round. Again I gave up my ruger to the little lady to #### around with her gun. I wasn't in the mood to go back to the store again so I shot it with my support hand on the mag holding it in place.
The final straw was when the gun started to fail to eject. It would feed and fire but on extraction it would dump the case in the action and then the bolt would go forward and strip a new round from the mag and both the new round and the empty would get jammed up. The new round would be shaped like a banana after I pried it out of the action.
The next day I took the pos back for a refund and bought her a nice 10/22 carbine. So far it's been the second most reliable gun in the house.
New Haven (ie Mossberg) Model 251C Autoloading rifle, tube fed.
On the one hand, I love the fit and feel of the rifle and the fact that its a hand me down. Its actually decently accurate. But is it ever a POS!
- It broke a firing pin on me and since then, have not been able to find a pin that fits just right resulting in light strikes.
- The trigger mech broke and needs to be manually moved forward to reset after each round fired.
- The tube is next to impossible to get in with over 10rds in it (cap is 14rds).
- It rarely loads or ejects without difficulty.
And as the only 22 rifle I had for a while, it cost us many a grouse when double teaming with a shotgun. I call it the 'goddammit' gun due to the number of times I or my father has uttered that while grouse hunting.
On the one hand, I love the fit and feel of the rifle and the fact that its a hand me down. Its actually decently accurate. But is it ever a POS!
- It broke a firing pin on me and since then, have not been able to find a pin that fits just right resulting in light strikes.
- The trigger mech broke and needs to be manually moved forward to reset after each round fired.
- The tube is next to impossible to get in with over 10rds in it (cap is 14rds).
- It rarely loads or ejects without difficulty.
And as the only 22 rifle I had for a while, it cost us many a grouse when double teaming with a shotgun. I call it the 'goddammit' gun due to the number of times I or my father has uttered that while grouse hunting.
Ruger 10/22
My vote is for the 10/22 as well. You hear so much about these things and granted... they're an accurate rifle... when they work!
This would not be something I would say I can depend on... the extended mags don't feed worth a crap (could be the mags) the factory mag has issues feeding too (could be the ammo). Stovepipes, misfeeds... and on we go! But I've tried a number of brands of ammo and they all do the same thing.
I hate the slide lock, I hate the mag release... I hate the way you have to feed the mags... especially around 6-7-8 ouch- 9- ouch 10...
I don't know, maybe I got a bad one... but I've had three and they all do the same thing... maybe I got a bad three.
Like a guy before me said... throw another few hundred bones into these things and they will be your precious!
My vote is for the 10/22 as well. You hear so much about these things and granted... they're an accurate rifle... when they work!
This would not be something I would say I can depend on... the extended mags don't feed worth a crap (could be the mags) the factory mag has issues feeding too (could be the ammo). Stovepipes, misfeeds... and on we go! But I've tried a number of brands of ammo and they all do the same thing.
I hate the slide lock, I hate the mag release... I hate the way you have to feed the mags... especially around 6-7-8 ouch- 9- ouch 10...
I don't know, maybe I got a bad one... but I've had three and they all do the same thing... maybe I got a bad three.
Like a guy before me said... throw another few hundred bones into these things and they will be your precious!
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