Realistically, $60 -$80 each. I would be inclined to buy more if they were $50 though. Make the mag so it fits the AR but does not bear a strong resemblence to the ar mag and it should make it an easier job to get approval on. Or, why not make the bolt rifle mags so they are unable to fit in the AR but make an adapter similar in nature to ones used on Tavors or SL8s? I would still pony up for that.
what would you pay for a legal 30round mag
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rommelrommel
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How can you argue that any magazine that follows the AR15 mag standards is designed solely for a bolt gun however? The only way to make a case for it not being an AR15 magazine is if it does not fit in an AR15. Otherwise, it's pretty friggin obvious that you designed this bolt gun to use AR15 mags, not that you designed a mag solely for the bolt gun.
The RCMP said that .22 MP5 looking thing was an MP5 variant. They play by their own rules. Going above and beyond the requirements is just easier.
But then how do you explain the 10 round pistol mags?
Don't they fall into that category?
BigDotGlock
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Hoards of you are willing to pay $50-$100+ for mags you know are only REALLY worth $10-$20, seriously? "Worth it for a legal 30rd mag", seriously?
Threads like this are a great example of why our economy is headed into the crapper. The concept of "worth" in modern society is so out of whack, it's not even funny! Having credit, or even cash, to buy a given item you WANT doesn't make the item WORTH the price you are crazy enough to pay.
Threads like this are a great example of why our economy is headed into the crapper. The concept of "worth" in modern society is so out of whack, it's not even funny! Having credit, or even cash, to buy a given item you WANT doesn't make the item WORTH the price you are crazy enough to pay.
Actually, you have it exactly backwards. Supply and demand are the cornerstones of the free market. It is far from out of whack. It is the natural order of the market. The value of anything is realitive to the realities of the market that is is for sale in... What is out of whack is that we (in Canada) have to jump through hoops to buy anything close to standard capacity AR mags... But don't misdirect your anger toward those that might take the initiative to do something about it.
If no one was "crazy enough" to pay for 30 round mags that would fit into an AR, then why on earth would anyone bother to go through the trouble of making it happen when they could just sell pinned mags?
If no one was "crazy enough" to pay for 30 round mags that would fit into an AR, then why on earth would anyone bother to go through the trouble of making it happen when they could just sell pinned mags?
read my previous post
the research and development of a magazine which is designed for a manual repeating firearm and also has to fit or be capable of fitting a semi auto is no easy task especially when you have to have the mag approved by rcmp.
I will ask again then DO YOU THINK SOMEONE WILL DO THIS FOR FREE AND SELL THE MAGS FOR THE SAME AS AN EXISTING DESIGN. and by your cost example less than the going rate for an ar mag
the research and development of a magazine which is designed for a manual repeating firearm and also has to fit or be capable of fitting a semi auto is no easy task especially when you have to have the mag approved by rcmp.
I will ask again then DO YOU THINK SOMEONE WILL DO THIS FOR FREE AND SELL THE MAGS FOR THE SAME AS AN EXISTING DESIGN. and by your cost example less than the going rate for an ar mag
You're paying for the loophole, not just the mag. Seriously.
Not sure how that reflects the economy or how it's an example of why it's in the crapper. Although it shows ingenuity to bypass a f**king pathetic law and might help to remove the mag cap over all.
Bluestratus would it not be like taking the AR mag receiver and placing a bolt action above it in some sense obviously more complicated but I hope you understand what I mean.
What about that remington shotgun that took AR mags what if you slightly altered the lock of the mag and then stamped it with that specific shotguns name?
What about that remington shotgun that took AR mags what if you slightly altered the lock of the mag and then stamped it with that specific shotguns name?
BigDotGlock
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Perfect, let the the big talkers take the lead and pay $100 bucks a mag. Pricing people out of the market is a great way to turn a profit. If you really think you'd make more money selling $100 mags to a handfull of mall ninjas, than you would selling $20 dollar mags to much larger number of shooters, that's your opinion.
You bring up a great point though, about jumping through hoops to buy anything from the states. I keep saying every complaint of that nature should be accompanied by a copy of a communication to the poster's MP, stating the same gripes. We can bellyache and internet to eachother all we want, and get in peeing conests over what we can afford to pay for guns/parts, it's no helping!
I think you are missing at least part of the point. If something like this were ever brought to market in Canada, it would not simply be a commercially available 30 round AR mag in new packaging. It will have to be a newly designed mag, designed to for some newly developed bolt or pump gun, that would happen to fit into an AR... And considering this would only be marketable in Canada (a very limited market) the price would have to reflect the development, production and marketing costs of selling this item into a small market... No one is talking about raping anyone. The discussion is really about whether the mags could be sold at a high enough price point to make it worthwhile for someone to bother at all with proceeding with a project such as this.
Take your realistic views and logic to another thread, they clearly aren't welcome here.
Apparently. The socialist drive for cheep goods, equally for all is running pretty strong here...
this is exactly the point im trying to make!!!!
although i didn't want this thread to be argumentative or to explain what it would take to construct such a mag
BigDotGlock
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Yeah, I understand we're talking about a "new design". The topic has been discussed to death in many threads, has there been any prgress. The cost is in the innovation and we're paying for the loophole, I get it. It's depressing and rediculous that people think that's the way to go, but I get it.
Again I say, rather than all the useless internetting about mythical inventions and loopholes, CALL YOUR MP! If people spent as much time trying to do something about these rediculous laws, as they do whining about ways to get around them, we could just drill the rivets out of the mags we already have. Nah, lets stick with whining online, because that's working so far, right?
Dare I ask, if someone did manage to invent such a mythical mag, what would be the point anyway? With so many ranges being uptight about "rapid firing", 30rd mags aren't all that much fun. Our overlords don't believe in our right to self defense, so preparing for methzomibes isn't much motivation to get one either.
Anyway good luck with this, I really couldn't care less at this point.
Again I say, rather than all the useless internetting about mythical inventions and loopholes, CALL YOUR MP! If people spent as much time trying to do something about these rediculous laws, as they do whining about ways to get around them, we could just drill the rivets out of the mags we already have. Nah, lets stick with whining online, because that's working so far, right?
Dare I ask, if someone did manage to invent such a mythical mag, what would be the point anyway? With so many ranges being uptight about "rapid firing", 30rd mags aren't all that much fun. Our overlords don't believe in our right to self defense, so preparing for methzomibes isn't much motivation to get one either.
Anyway good luck with this, I really couldn't care less at this point.
rommelrommel
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But then how do you explain the 10 round pistol mags?
Well, kind of. I think the CX4 carbine kind of pushed this issue first because there suddenly was a semi auto rifle that could accept currently existing legal 10 round pistol mags. They read the law and realized that it's the mag itself that is legal or not, not what the mag happens to be in.
CFC basically decided that they could live with 10 round mags in a semi auto rifle is the bottom line. I personally think that the law allows unlimited AR15 style magazines at this point due to the 7615, but CFC feels differently.
The 10 round A1A enfield mags were approved for import, and they happen to work in M14's... and that has nothing to do with the 10 round capacity. 30 round A1A Enfield mags would be legal too, and still legal when put in a M14.
I think they let the cat out of the bag when they said outright that the LAR-10 pistol mags are legal. If 5 round AR15 semi auto rifle mags are legal, and 10 round AR15 pistol mags are legal, then 30/40/100 round 7615 mags should be legal, whether the 7615 was advertised with the capability to use AR15 mags or not. The AR15 pistols were obviously designed to use AR15 format magazines... so shouldn't they have been limited to 5? the AR15 pistols were designed to use AR15 mags, and they decided that 10 round mags were ok because they were a pistol. The 7615 was designed to use AR15 mags, and it's limited to 5?
I guess the choice is: Design a bolt action rifle that uses a mag that does NOT fit a AR15 without modifying the magwell and hope that CFC follows the letter of the law, OR, get charged for posessing a 30 round AR15 mag and argue that it is a 7615 mag, which just happens to fit in an AR15, and use the LAR15 mag ruling as evidence to support your position, along with the CX4 and M14 mags out there as additional evidence.
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