Narwhal, I have an Hatsan 14" Marine Guard (SS) pump for close and personal. I've prob run 50 or so rounds through it with no probs, still a good gun for $300. This summer I tried it at 25 & 50 with slugs, OO-buck Fed (Personal Defense) and #4 field. I just have a bead on front and for the multiple shots fired Off-hand as soon as I drew bead. Still fairly accurate, the silhouette first 3 @ 'heart' then 2 @ head (I pulled one to the right); the other targets at Red Dot. And the wads went thru with some of the shots. That #4 @ 25 wouldn't be good re 'Liability' for "over-spreading" so smaller shot likely spread worse at that distance? And the Slug dropped quite a bit @ 50. Note- All those distances are 'not defensive' unless being fired upon.







