What's your home defence handgun?

Brake in and find out :p

For a handgun I have my G22C for the ammo I have 4 magazines of Hornady 180grn GR TAP rounds ready to go. All locked in my mini vault.
If all else fails I also store 9 rounds of Hornady 12Guage 00 TAP buckshot in the vault with the G22C.

Home invasions and burglary are no joke. When I was 7 we were broken into and my older sister was at home at the time. If it wasn't for a 2" solid oak door on my dads gun room I cant imagine what would have happened to her. The suspect attempted to get into the room she was in to get her but my dad and uncle came home early from work and he ran. We moved the next week.

Now that I have my own family to take care of I make sure that I have the tools to defend the ones I love.

As for those that have a home defense gun make sure you practice with it and using the same ammo you intend to use to defend it.

Tim
 
The Liberals have made laws that I can't have a gun for self defence. So I'll just call the nearest Liberal Member of Parliament to come and save me.,,, one ringy dingy, two rin......!
 
I did an exchange tour in Tampa,FL back in the mid 80s. I lived in Temple Terrace,a nice suburb on the NE side of Tampa with a very incidence of residential B&E. I kept a loaded S&W M39-2 and a flashlight at hand in the bedside table.

One of the US Army MSGTs in the office was a volunteer deputy with the Hillsborough County Sherriff and did a lot of evening/night patrols with them. As an aside, this guy had worked on the POW re-pat program at the end of the Vietnam War and absolutely knew that some POWs were left behind for political reasons. I asked him what the complications might be if I popped a cap on somebody attempting a break in. He said that as long as there was some evidence of forcible entry, there would not be a problem.Even if there was not,most of the perps were repeat offenders with a record that would speak for itself.

Tampa was a great place to live at the time. Unfortunately there was quite a bit of crime,a lot of it caused by the criminals that Castro had exported in the Mariele boatlift. We used to like to go to the Columbia Restaurant,a very nice Cuban restaurant located in the YBor City district. Ybor City was a high crime area,so I always carried a concealed Walther PPK when we went there. Never had to use it,but it was a comfort to have.

Now in "safe" Canada, I'm happy to live in a smaller community and still subscribe to the idea that a man's home is his castle, and that it's better to be tried by 12,than carried by 6.
 
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B said:
It blows my mind that some people would actually use a knife or bat over a firearm.
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But it happens.

...Well, I hit him hard right between the eyes
And he went down, but to my surprise,
He come up with a knife and cut off a piece of my ear.
But I busted a chair right across his teeth
And we crashed through the wall and into the street
Kicking and a' gouging in the mud and the blood and the beer.

I tell ya, I've fought tougher men
But I really can't remember when,
He kicked like a mule and he bit like a crocodile.
I heard him laugh and then I heard him cuss,
He went for his gun and I pulled mine first,
He stood there lookin' at me and I saw him smile...

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Post from the shotgun forum (Not my post,not my opinion)

Here's something I came across on the Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum. I, myself follow the Louisville Slugger phhilosophy, and would get a dog *way* before I'd even think about a home defence gun, but for those who prefer the boomstick:
I'm a lawyer in general practice in a small town. I'm also a shotgun addict. You say you have'nt owned a shotgun before, but you want one for protection. Here's my advice:

1. Regardless of the law, regardless of the new "castle doctrine" laws they may pass in your state, regardless of how much the low life needs killing that breaks in your home,,,,,it really DOES matter what kind of gun you use if you ever even point it at somebody, much less use it. Remember that having a gun in your hand in an argument with somebody, or pointing up in the air, gets you exposed to FELONY charges if some overzealous prosecutor wants to charge you. I have universally told all of my clients who have EVER asked me to use a double barreled side by side (or over and under) shotgun, just like Elmer Fudds, with cheap 7 1/2 field loads you buy at Wal Mart, for home protection. Why? Because it's the absolutely LEAST offensive gun a prosecutor could ever waive around in front of a jury, later, if you have to justify using the thing. For the love of God don't chose a black, pistol gripped "people shooter" with a folding stock. You are just asking for it if you do. And don't say you bought your shotgun for protection. You are about to become a target shooter, my friend. Welome to the world of shooting clay birds. And the day the bad guys come in at 3 am, Thank Goodness you happened to have your double barrel shotgun handy.
Any 12 or even 20 gauge shotgun will blow an intruder to the infernal regions at the distance you'll shoot, with any load. You don't need buckshot or slugs, and not only will some prosecutor argue you bought those evil shells designed to kill people, you don't want the extra penetration in your house if you ever need to use it. Use 7 1/2, or 8's, or even 9's, but never the big shot sizes.

2. Now I'm putting on my shotgun lover hat, and taking off my lawyer hat. Since you haven't owned a shotgun before, I advise you to go to Cabela's or your local gun shop or Bass pro or Wal Mart and buy a Mossberg Select over and under shotgun for just under 500 bucks, with a 26, or 28 inch barrel in 20 gauge. Now you have a real, usable clay target gun, that will be really easy for you to shoot. Nothing can even compare to a break open gun for a beginner, and the 20 will break all the clay birds (and kill all the bad guys) you'll ever want. Then, absolutely, go to a sporting clays range and the owners should GLADLY teach you how to shoot your gun. If they don't, then the next range owner will. A shotgun is the best home defense gun there is, in my opinion, even if it wasn't the best legal option to use. But to use it for home defense, you can't be fumbling with it. You've got to know how to use it. Three different days at a sporting clays range, (try the skeet range first), and you'll not only be proficient with your shotgun, you'll likely have a new hobby. You like to bowl? It's fun. Shotguns are even funner.

By the way, I'm for the homeowner. I'm for you having the right to blow anybody away who breaks in your home. But even in your home, even after he's broke in, the law says and has always said you have the right to use deadly force ONLY IF IT IS REASONABLE. It's that weasel word "reasonable" that lets prosecutors charge the good guy. You've never had the right to execute a house breaker who's surrendered. You never will. That's the problem with "holding them for the police to come". If you can, barricade yourself in a room, yell out that the police are coming and you have a gun, and if they break in through the door, it's either you or them. And, by the way, never say you shot to kill. You shoot to STOP. You shoot to STOP THEM FROM KILLING YOU. You shoot them dead center mass, because you absolutely have to stop them. You shoot once and if they keep coming (doubtful) you shoot again. You never ever reload and shoot them when they are down. One or two 20 gauge loads in the belly at six feet is absolutely going to stop the biggest, meanest, meth crazed junkie on earth. He'll get really peaceful, really fast. You never fire warning shots, never brandish the shotgun and threaten them with it, never try to capture them. You only USE it if you absolutely HAVE to because they are coming after you. Hope they have a weapon. But if they don't, and they are coming after yours, you don't have to let them take it away from you. Always always always call the police, and then a lawyer. And hope you don't ever get in this situation. It's a wonderful idea to take a concealed weapons class, if they offer one in your area, or a firearms class of some kind, before you go through with this.
Personally, I have no opinion on this. I just thought it'd be interesting to some here.
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Broker, in principle, I agree with the poster. IMHO, in Canada, certainly in my jurisdiction, a crown attorney will use every tool at his or her disposal to get a conviction.

So, proper planning should ensure that no evidence exists that could possibly result in a conviction for any crime.

If the home defender can be shown in any way to have lured or enticed the bad guy to enter his premises, and be shown in any way to have a firearm that suggests a mindset bent on homicide; if the home defender can be shown to be anticipating and looking forward to shooting the bad guy, the home defender will pay. Big time.

This is why I'm set up with a perimeter breach alarm, Surefire, Kershaw and cell phone within bedside reach, and properly stored firearms.

(This is for a suburban location, in which police can be expected to respond within seven minutes unless all hell broke loose somewhere else in the division.)

If someone breaches, the first step is to get a 911 call taker and keep him or her on the line. The tape will serve to prove intent and actions in court.

(Obviously, we will be sure of the location of our kids.)

The next step is to give a verbal warning to the intruder. The next step is for me to acquire an appropriate firearm unlock it, load it, and make an appropriate racking sound with it, followed by another warning--twenty seconds.

My wife will state to the dispatcher that I am placing myself at the head of the stairs between the intruder and the kids' bedrooms. The wife will state that I have a firearm. That should get the dispatcher to send cars from a nearby division. :eek: Armed homeowner! OMG! Who gave HIM the right??

If the verbal warning, the racking of the firearm, the Surefire to make doubly sure the intruder is in fact a stranger) does not dissuade the intruder and he charges at me up the stairs, then he will get the consequences.

The crown will be faced with the following facts:

1. Perimeter alarm
2. Immediate 911 call
3. Protection of life
4. In one's own home
5. Fair warnings (verbal, firearm racking sound)
6. Charging at resident

It's easy to say "Carried by six or judged by twelve", but some minimal planning can save you the worst hassle of your life. Personally, I never want to have to shoot anybody.

Feel free to criticize this approach.
 
v65magnafan said:
Feel free to criticize this approach.
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Excellent overall plan and well thought out. My only criticism would be to not state a warning until you are armed and able to respond immediately if the intruders react aggressively in response to your challenge. I am not of the mind that I want to give them time to prepare or react to the fact that the homeowner is aware of them and arming himself to remove them.

BTW, "in fear for life" has been quite liberally interpreted in a number of court cases and the courts have been pretty willing to accept the use of deadly force when a home invasion or break in occurs. Establishing danger and threat levels is not held to a very high standard once someone has shown willingness to break into your home and not leave when confronted.

Mark
 
mmattockx said:
Excellent overall plan and well thought out. My only criticism would be to not state a warning until you are armed and able to respond immediately if the intruders react aggressively in response to your challenge. I am not of the mind that I want to give them time to prepare or react to the fact that the homeowner is aware of them and arming himself to remove them.

BTW, "in fear for life" has been quite liberally interpreted in a number of court cases and the courts have been pretty willing to accept the use of deadly force when a home invasion or break in occurs. Establishing danger and threat levels is not held to a very high standard once someone has shown willingness to break into your home and not leave when confronted.

Mark
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Thanks. You're quite right. This is the kind of response I was hoping for. My first call-out to the intruder should be, "I am armed with a gun. Leave now!"
 
v65magnafan said:
Thanks. You're quite right. This is the kind of response I was hoping for. My first call-out to the intruder should be, "I am armed with a gun. Leave now!"
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I don't know if I would even mention being armed. I would simply tell them to stop, the police have been called and to get out. If you have to show yourself, they can figure out that you are armed on their own. I think that a pump shotgun is the best tool available for this, as the sound of it being racked is unmistakable and provides warning that you are armed and will not be cowering in fear.

From what I have read (worth every penny, same as all other internet info), also telling them to stop and that you are placing them under citizen's arrest is acceptable, too. If they run away, let them go and wait for the police. Don't meet the police at the door with a loaded gun, either. It sounds stupid, but in the exictement/confusion of it all, that is an easy thing to do.

At least one of the court cases I mentioned basically determined that if an intruder continued forward after being told to stop, that was proof of violent intent and you were able to claim in fear of life at that point. There was a good thread on this in the general discussion forum or the Discussion & Alerts forum, with a number of court cases linked and cited, along with good info about how the laws are laid out.

Mark
 
canuck44 said:
a hooded robber burst into a toronto home and forced the homeowners to
load a sack full of jewals & cash. On his way out the door the homeowners mother in law grabbed the hood and pulled it off revealing the robber's face. The robber shot the mother-in-law without a moment's hesitation.

He then looked around the house and noticed the father-in-law
looking straight at him. The robber instantly shot him also.

The rest of the family, by now very scared, looked intently at the floor in silence. The robber yelled, "well, did anyone else see my face?"

there are a few moments of utter silence, in which everyone was
plainly afraid to speak. Then the homeowner tentatively raised his hand and
said, "i think my wife may have caught a glimpse of you."

take care

bob
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mudgunner49 said:
... but if you missed you still might set him on fire :eek:...

PS - I'm pretty sure the poster was being facetious. You need to relax a bit, I think that you're over-thinking this whole thing. ;)
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It seems this thread has gotten pretty serious and I am thinking not overthinking. All I was saying is that that gun is not a good isea and telling why. And if you have ever shot a s&w 500 or 460 you would know why.
 
Multiple doors, They have to get thru the front door, then my bedroom door, then thru my safe room door (good luck) as i watch them on my cameras. If they insist on coming thru the last door............ If its not worth killing or dying for, just let them take it. I can always buy new stuff, I cant replace our lives. Multiple doors show intent they are coming after you!
 
Just answering, purely on the question.

A nice 1911 in .45 is always a good choice, but again a SW 357 loaded in .38 special is a very good choice.

A .22 can be a good option, very easy to shoot especially when under stress.
 
what about a shotty with rubber bullets? can't remember what they are called... the ones used by riot police. they hurt like hell (not that i have experienced it) and it's not lethal enough to kill the intruder... what do you guys think?
 
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