actually ditched the butt pad tonight, just cut it off... unscrewed it an glued on a tuflon? ebay pad i got for that Ruger the other week, only needed to file down the plastic butt cap a few mm an looks like it will be a sweety!! that gives a nice cush
Whelans 7mm Rem mag thread
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ADI 2213sc [ H4831sc here] should work just fine, Rhys. It is only a tad faster than Norma MRP, so fits into the same applications well.
Our IMR 4831 is 1½ to 2 grain faster than H4831sc, so you would probably be safe starting your 2213 at the IMR spec and working up.
You can choose to shoot any bullet you want in your 7 mag, but I have always felt that that bigger case was suited best to bullets from
150 grains and up. As a matter of fact, I have shot more game with my 7 mags over the years with 160's, than any other weight.
That being said, the 150 Scirocco II is such a great bonded bullet, and it shoots so well in my rifle that I will be hunting with it now. Dave.
Our IMR 4831 is 1½ to 2 grain faster than H4831sc, so you would probably be safe starting your 2213 at the IMR spec and working up.
You can choose to shoot any bullet you want in your 7 mag, but I have always felt that that bigger case was suited best to bullets from
150 grains and up. As a matter of fact, I have shot more game with my 7 mags over the years with 160's, than any other weight.
That being said, the 150 Scirocco II is such a great bonded bullet, and it shoots so well in my rifle that I will be hunting with it now. Dave.
I've had good luck with 154 interlocks, H4831 and getting most 7mm rifles to shoot them at least reasonably well. I wouldn't be too upset if I had to shoot the 162 SST's either, while I still need to try them in some test media for myself, I've seen enough positive reports saying they have been toughened up since their introduction I am intrigued.
dave is this 150gr above mostly due to the close in work of the lighter stuff without being exotic like ttsx, etc? do you use dial or a hold over?
thanks again mate
hey mate thats good to hear about the sst , ive heard so much mixed about them so i thought i have to try the sst and eldx side by side for on game performance in coming months- get into the animal an see first hand etc.
be interesting to see if they shoot anywhere near each other but thats not something im goin for-
one at a time
I have, for years, used the +3" at 100 yards for my hunting rifles. With that 150 Scirocco II started at 3140, that simply
means that I can use a dead on hold out to 360-380 yards on an animal the size of a decent deer. I know that bullet will not blow up at
30 yards, and will still expand reliably at 500, so it is a good choice for me. The 160 Accubond is similar in performance. Dave.
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At this point, I have not seen any evidence of this so-called "tougher" SST. The latest batch I got my hands on is still a "bomb" at
close range in wet newspaper. It will do it's best work at longer ranges, IMHO. Dave.
close range in wet newspaper. It will do it's best work at longer ranges, IMHO. Dave.
Yeah for sure- ive kind of fallen into that trap of what the 7 rem mag isgood for, how you say it above, a dead hold out far without messin around, well i was doin thatwith the 7-08 , then i bought a tactical Vortex scope to dial.... but also a 7mm rem magnum to get out there....
i know full well my 7-08 will get out there... but i was thinkin as you do, flatter trajectory of a Rem mag- this is fairly squished when you factor in a Dial scope... does it not.
weather it is 30 inches ar 400 or 50 inches, its just a matter of Clicking..... IF i stuck a ? BDC LEupold on it and sighted 3 high at 100....then it would be an advantage over my 7-08, what im starting to think is though, the 7-08 with the Tactical dial scope on it aint nothin to dismiss either-
going to be an interesting venture this one, i upgrade the recoil pad, cleaned the brass up an sized the nickel brass- wont be too long an il get to fire it.
i know full well my 7-08 will get out there... but i was thinkin as you do, flatter trajectory of a Rem mag- this is fairly squished when you factor in a Dial scope... does it not.
weather it is 30 inches ar 400 or 50 inches, its just a matter of Clicking..... IF i stuck a ? BDC LEupold on it and sighted 3 high at 100....then it would be an advantage over my 7-08, what im starting to think is though, the 7-08 with the Tactical dial scope on it aint nothin to dismiss either-
going to be an interesting venture this one, i upgrade the recoil pad, cleaned the brass up an sized the nickel brass- wont be too long an il get to fire it.
so our ADI data for the 2213SC ( H4831sc) Max charge load is 64gr for 2870 in a 24......... with my numbers an a 26 incher if i can get to 66gr with 162 eld i will get 2950 perhaps 3
i was lookin at 140gr AR2213SC data an its max is Also 64grains for 2950
well i gots a box of 162 eldxs......7mms lol! not sure about dat scope though ahah!!
Go to the Barnes site..it lists max at 69.1 @+3100 ft/sec for H4831SC with the 140 TTSX'S
https://www.barnesbullets.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/7mmRemingtonMagnum.pdf
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some kiwi friends of mine are running 69grs of aswell.........
Eagleye said there was differences, but thats interesten, the adi pressure leave a bit to add up to max pressures.... 69 sounds common in this .
will look into it . thanks fella
I've used 175gr Partitions for game as small as Blacktail deer and as big as Moose. The bullet just works really well. A long time ago I used to load with H870 - it is a dirty powder. I then moved to IMR 7828 which worked very well and kept me satisfied until I tried RL26. I get 2904fps and great accuracy.
1899 , thats getting into heavy recoil class i rekon! i am thinking of going lighter with something decently constructed, i know it sounds a bit od, but even a woodleigh 140ppsn would be fine for 500m , it might not fly the flattest? by a long shot but if stoked up with enough fps, aught to do the job i rekon!?
thus using 2213sc H4831sc should be pretty reasonable! woodleighs imacts are 2200 to 3000 fps - this give that up close encounter but also long snipe at one an not stress on bone to much!
an a box of alum and chrome for dipping...... projectiles are fingers crossed for tomorow! an scope??? its in melbourne it says The recoil really depends on your rifle - weight, fit, style of stock. Both my best friend and I shoot pretty much identical loads and the recoil really isn't bad. His rifle is 8 pounds and mine is 9. It is comparable to a heavy 150gr load in a Tikka T3 Superlight in .270. I tried some lighter bullets in the past - 140's and 150's, but I never really got the velocity to make it worthwhile (for me) over a .270 Winchester. Then again, I haven't tried the lighter bullets with any of the newer powders.
Also, take the book velocity numbers with a big grain of salt. And the same goes with the BC numbers. Get your velocity and shoot out to distance and you will notice that bullet drop will not be what the book says it should be.
