Whelans 7mm Rem mag thread

See, this is what I mean - you can get around 3100 fps out of a 130gr TSX in a .270 with a 22" barrel using 10-15 grains less powder (H4350). Lighter, handier rifle with similar or less recoil.

And the 6.5 PRC / 6.5-284 with sleek bullets make for an even better 270!
 
See, this is what I mean - you can get around 3100 fps out of a 130gr TSX in a .270 with a 22" barrel using 10-15 grains less powder (H4350). Lighter, handier rifle with similar or less recoil.

I've had several 7Rm and all have given about 3100 with the 160's
 
See, this is what I mean - you can get around 3100 fps out of a 130gr TSX in a .270 with a 22" barrel using 10-15 grains less powder (H4350). Lighter, handier rifle with similar or less recoil.

Yeah man thats certainly crossing my Mind.. i think the slower the powder will mean more quanitity of it aswell...... im pretty familiar with a 150gr 270 in a light rifle.

even with a 24 inch barrel the 270 win is still in that bracket we are talkin about...

One thing i am going to assume- or say- is the wind drift for NZ mountains should be a little less dramatic with a 7 rem mag over 400 say, wind reading is a whole nother kettle of fish.!


i'll load up an see how it goess, but i am not against the possibility of selling it shortly down the track if its not what im chasen. :)
 
Projies Arrived. im keen to laod them tonight.

i drilled holes in me recoil pad for more cush , feels better.

anyway that scope.. lol


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i loaded some rounds up from 62-65 with 2213sc , an seated like 2mm below the cannelure.. i have alot of magazine space but only .200? to play with from me case to rifling.

what do yas suggest i do there? just play with that seating depth if i cant find moa load?

coal is like 3.2950
 
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I've had several 7Rm and all have given about 3100 with the 160's

I’ve reloaded for 4 and the only time I hit 3100 with 160’s was when I used H870 out of a 26” barrel back in the day. Now, I switched over to 175’s about 20 years ago (back when the 175 Partition was still a semi-spitzer) so I don’t know if newer powders would do much better or not. What I have found is the the 7mm RM does not live up to the old, high velocity book numbers. YMMV
 
Projies Arrived. im keen to laod them tonight.

i drilled holes in me recoil pad for more cush , feels better.

anyway that scope.. lol


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i loaded some rounds up from 62-65 with 2213sc , an seated like 2mm below the cannelure.. i have alot of magazine space but only .200? to play with from me case to rifling.

what do yas suggest i do there? just play with that seating depth if i cant find moa load?

coal is like 3.2950

Pick a powder charge that has a flat spot in velocity gain...then go mag length you want and back off .003 COAL each set of test rounds until your groups tighten up...:)
 
I’ve reloaded for 4 and the only time I hit 3100 with 160’s was when I used H870 out of a 26” barrel back in the day. Now, I switched over to 175’s about 20 years ago (back when the 175 Partition was still a semi-spitzer) so I don’t know if newer powders would do much better or not. What I have found is the the 7mm RM does not live up to the old, high velocity book numbers. YMMV

well to be fair the book numbers im seeing in Woodleighs manual is certainly nothing to write home about, what you guys have expressed here is all much warmer and its proberly given me a bit of doubt, im not paeticularly aiming for 3000 but close to with 26 inch tube would be better suited , i guess.

scopes moved up the HWY to Seymour... so thats only a few hours away- fingers crossed!!
 
Pick a powder charge that has a flat spot in velocity gain...then go mag length you want and back off .003 COAL each set of test rounds until your groups tighten up...:)

thats intense. :D
im likely to get that velocity peak an loss with this powder i rekons, .003 is very close, thats goin to show higher pressure in general than having them back at the cannelure? is that right?

il stop yappin, an get behind this rifle in the next 48 hours id say- reply back then with loadd developments.
 
I’ve reloaded for 4 and the only time I hit 3100 with 160’s was when I used H870 out of a 26” barrel back in the day. Now, I switched over to 175’s about 20 years ago (back when the 175 Partition was still a semi-spitzer) so I don’t know if newer powders would do much better or not. What I have found is the the 7mm RM does not live up to the old, high velocity book numbers. YMMV

I started loading for the 7Rm in the early 60's and Speer data was more than genuine I switched to hornadyAnd their data was generous. All my loads were safe according to that data. Then specs for the cartridge are reduced for some reason possibly when Browning Chambered the BAR for it. I could see no reason to reduce my previously "safe" loads. I was a fan of P..O. Ackley at that time and his opinion was that if you could get 4 reloads out of a piece of brass without the primer pockets opening up the load was safe. In reality the 7Rm and 7 Wby are virtually cases and the Way is loaded to higher pressures and there is no reason from a safety aspect for this.
Neil
 
I started loading for the 7Rm in the early 60's and Speer data was more than genuine I switched to hornadyAnd their data was generous. All my loads were safe according to that data. Then specs for the cartridge are reduced for some reason possibly when Browning Chambered the BAR for it. I could see no reason to reduce my previously "safe" loads. I was a fan of P..O. Ackley at that time and his opinion was that if you could get 4 reloads out of a piece of brass without the primer pockets opening up the load was safe. In reality the 7Rm and 7 Wby are virtually cases and the Way is loaded to higher pressures and there is no reason from a safety aspect for this.
Neil

yeah rightio, interesting i had to look up specs on the weatherby mag, im itching to shoot this thing now lol.

i think i will load up some ELDX development loads too while im waiting tonight mail gets in about 11 tomorow morning :)
Should i load further than 65 Grains for now, considering its getting warmer but i wouldnt say hot without actually shooting the rifle, but ya never know? i could always pull any that were above a 'hot' load for that rifle?

scope an shoot.
 
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still not shot, too windy today , so went up the mountain to work on a hut from 1960s and last inhabited in the 1980s :) more on that later.

hopefully a calmer day tomorow!! :)

i drilled holes across that 'shotgun' style pad, so that its more cushier, feels good..will know tomorow.
 
OMG!!!! I love it!!

Recoil is so manageable so far! the long tube an Rem700 weight really helps!

spitting out the SSTs into some of the smaller groups ive personally seen so there is little doubt it shoots better than I can!!!
 
With some Groups today, 62-63 was great, 64 and 65 began to blow out considerably-

we were talkin how the min and max for this powder is 60-64


Also the gun is oily still. on the firing pin hole an may be marking the brass case bases!? so i wiped off an next case was good. is this bad?

im pullin the gun down an cleaning it agan an sprying with some sort of degreaser an air blowing, re cleanin the barrel an starting agan at 63gr as 62 63 shot great...... 64 65 not so? Should i go further Higher to see if this will tighten or being 'over max' already is it likely the gun likes hat mid charge as per ADI data???

oi, me shoulders sore too.... 25 or so shots in ha ha laying prone.

i was stoked with not as heavy recoil as expected an for hunting will be awesome
 
So the barrel was wiped clean with patches before shooting, i shot say 20 rounds and give it a clean now. holey smokes, black. somethings not right in regards to that oil possibly made its way into the bore.

i have ELDX loads to try for remainder of today once i clean it up again an see how it fares after these 9 or so shots.?

im going to blow this gun out , the amount of oil near rear action bolt is silly.
 
Yeah i got that sorted, slowly gettin rid of it in the action area too. (pulled out of stock)

My bloody scope rings came loose an had been for some shots so that was a F up. an explains the big groups..... Face palm.

back sweet now and looks like 63grs is good for both sst n eldx... which isnt fast at all with 2213sc... i will go try 2217 when i can.!!!

so regarding those 64 65 66 grain area, an being Max at 64, my primers werent flat but had the ring around the dent, creating the crater effect.... no hard bolt lifts or anything, once scope was re tigthened i shot higher charges of the nickel brass eldx an didnt get difference in primers or groups really...

i do think it puts One off now and then, two very close and one away, i will re shoot a 5x group tomorow.
 
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Devestated, il need a new rear ring for the rem , this one was a little damaged an within the shots ive fired its come loose actually and sheared the groove off it, so delayed there further more.


wonder though now, if i use that scope on my kimber 708 LOL..serious in one sense though not sure if its worth the hassle, but it is crossing my mind..
 
update. i am back on target- gun store an hour out had second hand leupold rings in "medium" i got them hitchhiked to this town and had a look an...they are Lows............
and the scope fits sweet
Bloody awesome!!! :D

thats a bit of a win for the moment, should shoulder so much nicer and be nicer to shoot , to boot!!

loaded alot of charges with varying seating depths an will have a real idea after i get ta shoot it again.

going to stick with this combo for now,an for the eldx i will use a 2217 powder. its all good.
cheers all
 
Glad to hear you got that sorted out.

I usually concentrate on the charge before changing the seating depth. The more variables you introduce the harder it is.
 
hey gents.
heres my gun all set up out shooting today
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ignore the 303 mess. im happy with lastgroup with 7 rem for what im doin with it , mostly practising sme longer ranges dialling the scope, all new to me.


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