I agree , I have a 45/70 that can be loaded mild to bloody nasty. My 375's are much more pleasant . My 416 Rigby and 458 win mag smart less . My 458 Lott can be a handful , especially if you don't hang on . Had the trigger guard smack my middle finger quite a few times. I would still much sooner shoot the Lott than a Benelli nova 3.5 inch magnum . That thing is rude.
When did folks become such recoil wimps?
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I agree , I have a 45/70 that can be loaded mild to bloody nasty. My 375's are much more pleasant . My 416 Rigby and 458 win mag smart less . My 458 Lott can be a handful , especially if you don't hang on . Had the trigger guard smack my middle finger quite a few times. I would still much sooner shoot the Lott than a Benelli nova 3.5 inch magnum . That thing is rude.
I think when shooting from a bench became the norm. You can shoot just about anything standing without too much discomfort, but attaining bragging rites about small groups necessitates much practice from a standing position.
you re not alone and i needed to put an extra slip pad on of one inchon most of the rifles im using, a big difference and in winter im using the stock without the extra and that is still good for me.
unfit sotck is always a problem. and seems Mike get the right answer with the adjustable lenght coming with the ruger stock.
I'm also a 444 fan. I've got two of 'em, one is a 1978 Marlin "JM" (twist is 1:38 microgroove) and the other is a 1997 or 1998 Winnie '94 side eject Big Bore (with a 1:12 twist rate) which was gifted to me. The funny thing is that the Winchester is about the same weight (within a couple of ounces I figure) as the Marlin. Yet I can shoot the Marlin literally all day, 40 or 60 rounds no problem except to my wallet. The Winchester kicks like a mule, 5/6/7 rounds and I'm pretty much done for at least when shooting with lighter clothing.
Both have newer Limbsavers (less than a couple of years old), both are shooting the same bullet weights (265 Hornady FP's). I find the Marlin groups tighter at 100, but that could possibly be due to subconsciously flinching at least a little bit when pulling the trigger on the '94.
I find the Marlin does a nice, linear "push" but the Win slams pretty hard and fast. The only thing I can attribute it to is that the drop at the comb on the Marlin is greater than the '94's, tending to move the recoil force lower on the shoulder pocket and spreading the load out a little bit.
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number 1 in heavy caliber are not fun to shoot anyway ... stock design.
Stock design and appropriate weight makes all the difference in the world. It has even had the strange effect of people confusing painful recoil with killing power. Case in point, the 45/70. It was nothing but a low recoil military pop-gun that took a distant second to a proper buffalo gun or reasonably loaded muzzleloader. Put it in a stupid enough stock and it might hurt a little. It sure doesn't kill any better.
The .45-70 loaded up to max in a Ruger No.1-S will get your attention when shot from the bench. But loaded to a reasonable level it is quite comfortable, as for it's killing ability, the physics involved do not lend themselves to spectacular kills, but they do lend themselves to "certain" kills... I am good with that... sometimes I want to be just as effective, but in a different way... I bowhunt too, which is just a little further down the sliding scale.
I believe the bottom line is if the rifle fits you well, it won't punish you. The one cartridge I avoid is the .340 Wby, cause I haven't found one that fits!
I shoot lots of big bores and none really bothers me, right up to the doubles, although I well remember an 8 bore once that was stiff! Lately my pet one is a .470 in a #1, ...... shoots tighter than most of my medium bores although I've never been silly enough to use a benchrest, ....... just a standing rest or offhand. One secret is to use both earplugs and muffs!
And I'm i my 70's with over 1/2 a century of practice!
I shoot lots of big bores and none really bothers me, right up to the doubles, although I well remember an 8 bore once that was stiff! Lately my pet one is a .470 in a #1, ...... shoots tighter than most of my medium bores although I've never been silly enough to use a benchrest, ....... just a standing rest or offhand. One secret is to use both earplugs and muffs!
And I'm i my 70's with over 1/2 a century of practice!
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They say that when facing dangerous game or when in a gunfight, its best to increase the range between you and your adversary. I just thought that sliding backwards along the ground resolved two problems at once; my target was diminished and the range between us increased.
