When will the FAL returneth?

theres a company in the united states that makes semi auto FAL rifles (dsarms.com/FAL-SA58%20Rifles/products/8/)

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Dunno what you guy's are waxing so nostalgic about. FN had lot's of good features but couldn't mount a scope well. I liked the adjustable gas system. Stock ergonomics were poor. Loved the left side cocking. Sights were good.

M14s are just as much fun to shoot . I have fired both at 500 m and prefer the M14. Besides, for the time being , this is all we have.

Yes the M14 is all we have, But I never had to upgrade a C1A1 to shoot 1 MOA. The C1A1 sights were great out to 600m. Have to disagree on the ergonomics, while the M14 mil spec stocks are ok and cool, they are dated. I like the new stocks for the M14. Love the left hand cocking lever, great idea. Better on the C1 than the reg FAL as it folded in and didn't stick out like a PITA. You could change the mag while keeping your trigger (right) hand on the pistol grip and release the action all while keeping your rifle on target. As for scope mounts, the old mounts had issues as did the M14, check out this mounting system from DSA.

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hey,i never had to upgrade an m14 to shoot moa either, provided you used lake city ammo and it was a REAL m14, and not a chinese knockoff- i found the sights one the fnc1 to be somewhat primitive and there wasn't any windage adjustment- you had to go up front for that and not all fns had the folding charging handle- which under certain conditions could, and would break off, leaving you with nothing to "work " with- there's a REASON why experienced soldiers like the charging handle on the bolt/bolt carrier on the right- mostly if you get a failure or misfire , you can WHANG on that thing and open the bolt
 
All it would take to get these back is an order in council, redeclaring the status of the firearm. The gov't could write an order in council declaring that the fn-fal and its variants are "restricted" it is that easy, it was that easy to make them prohibited. But the gov't has no desire to this for us, so we can sit and wonder.
 
All it would take to get these back is an order in council, redeclaring the status of the firearm. The gov't could write an order in council declaring that the fn-fal and its variants are "restricted" it is that easy, it was that easy to make them prohibited. But the gov't has no desire to this for us, so we can sit and wonder.

there's MANY rifles on that oic that have no business being there- results of a comittee/governemt being DRUNK on power- and pm HARPER seems to have to appitite to REVISIT the issue- he THINKS all he has to do is GET RID OF THE LONG GUN REGISTRY to shut us up
 
m14 (clones) which are legal yet real m14's are prohibited by name and share certain parts commonality with real m14s

No, the original M14's are not prohibited by name... Where did you get that from? They are, however, prohibited by the fact that they are either full auto or converted auto rifles.
 
tstar, I some times feel the same that they are only worried about the registry and in the end they will not change things like the prohib list. The gov't does not have to have a majority to issue an order in council either. An order in council is basically the govenor general allowing laws to be written, or guidelines, order in council is usually used for appointments. "Harper used an order in council to poroge parliment." sorry i think this was me reading to fast, says the govenor gen is only one can porogue parliment.
 
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Harpers a douche?

You know guys its awesome being Liberal. You allow just about everything.

In order to become a majority government you need 51% of the available seats in the house. So you have to get 51% of the people plus/ minus to vote for you. So you take a stand on ### marriage and lose 10% of the voters. Now you need 51% from the available 90%. You take a stand on abortion and lose 5% of the voters. Now you need 51% but only 85% are available to you. Do you see where I'm going?

People are morons and will actually vote based on one or two issues that are dear to them. Few see the big picture. You want the Conseravatives to die over the registry? Whats worse is that we have 5 parties. The Green party gets the vote from those so confused they"ll cast a vote over mandatory composting and car pooling. The New democrats survive on the backs of those who think Government knows best and has a duty to support them. The Bloc is a party that has Quebecers convinced they deserve some kind of special status in this country. the Liberals think you exist to make them wealthy. None of these parties is really about what's good for all of us.

Coservative government is about supporting industry, fiscal responsibility and not infringing on your life by controlling everything you do. If the Liberals regain power they will continue on their 100 year plan to disarm us. Be thankful that the Conservatives won't add to our misery because realistically most Canadians don't, won't understand your desire to own a handgun, AR or hunt for that matter. You should buy meat at safeways where they make it.

Harpers Conservatives have the longest standing minority government in history. They are close in the polls to a majority. Even the CBC admits they have had no scandal to talk about. This man may actually win a majority by showing the people that they have the countries best interests at heart. Once they have that real change may be possible. You want to lose that over the the registry right now? If firearms laws are the only issue that matter to you then you are just as narrow minded and short sighted as Jacks kids.

Having owned an AR15 and M14 when they were unregistered rifles and seeing how quickly it all changed I'm happy that things are stable for us now. When the conservatives get the power then they can revisit this issue in government. With a majority they'll defeat it. Heck maybe we can put the Bloc on trial for treason.
 
Harpers a douche. Just look at his face.

SINCE WHEN do we judge somebody on his LOOKS? if that was the case how did TURDEAU and CRETIEN get in?- besides, PM Harper happens to be my mp, and has done far more for us than all the liberals put together- rmember, you have to back to the days of lester pearson( which is a mighty long time ago) before you see gun control starting to go south- wendy and her minions just added to the liberal agenda at an "opportune time" just like paulie martin would have, given the chance
 
If I remember right, I think Marstar posted in a thread a while back that they had several hundred, new, Unissued FAL's (L1A1's?) sitting is a warehouse off shore somewhere. If we could get the FAL off the prohib list, I would have to guess Martsar would bring these in. I would defiantly be waiting in line to buy one.
 
If I remember right, I think Marstar posted in a thread a while back that they had several hundred, new, Unissued FAL's (L1A1's?) sitting is a warehouse off shore somewhere. If we could get the FAL off the prohib list, I would have to guess Martsar would bring these in. I would defiantly be waiting in line to buy one.

i've heard the same rumor but with m14s- not m14S- my guess would be he "got caught" with a bunch from the israelis when the law changed, and had to stop them before they hit our borders- that's why they're in overseas warehouses- i do know that there were some "kits" ( less receivers) that made it into the states
 
Everytime we have one of these threads I suggest we try to do something, but no one ever wants to try. There must be something we can do to appeal it on historical grounds? At least to try anyways.
 
Well , i have a thought on that , again just a thought . What if we made up a petition to take either the fn fal or a few firearms off the prohib list based on historical significance , one person writes it up *i have a few but i suck at letter writing* . then each person signs it and sends in the exact same print off .

If he gets a bag or 2 bags full and finds taking the FN FAL off the list would get even more votes in addition to the registry , hell it might just work ..

Unfortunately i was born with a rather sunny disposition .
 
I can write a decent letter if I have things in order, but I don't know enough about the events that transpired from the 70's to the 90's to do much good in this case. I would definitely like to see the FAL de-prohib.
 
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