???? Where are all the sks-d's ???

I had a SKS-D for my first rifle. Bought it new off Alan Lever in 1991. Kept it for YEARS and barely shot it up until a few years ago. Quickly realized it was NOT an AK, and sold it for CONSIDERABLY more than I paid. No regrets...
 
45ACPKING said:
there is only one SKS-D . It features an AK47 type magazine release and was made as such from the factory..... for whatever reason.
Changing mags on an sks-d is no different or problematic than changing mags on an AK47 and yet the AK gets praise but the sks-d does not?
Then there is the SKS M that came in a fatter stock with a rubber buttpad and came with 5 round mags. Back when these rifles were cheap and plentiful and full capacity mags were not prohibitted, we got to shoot a lot of these rifles side by side and the SKS-M , which is just a factory modified fixed mag, does not function with full capacity mags, they fall out of the rifle as it recoils due to thier weight. The sliding mag catch just doesn't hold the weight of a loaded full cap mag.
When the SHTF and the rifle you reach for can't accept and function with full cap mags it is a useless rifle.

I dunno about these T81 rifles as I'm not in the mood to pay those kind of prices for another rifle made in China. But if I did have an SKS-D i sure as heck wouldn't be trading it for a t81
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Yes, let's deny the obvious. There are dozens of SKS variants with detachable magazine, and even "SKS-D" is used to call at least 4-6 different variants (mag release, guide on carrier, presence or not and type of bayonet blade vs spike, detachable and non-detachable bayonet). Feel free to take a look at the tip of the iceberg here - http://chinesesks.weebly.com/commercial.html
And it is "conversion" indeed. While later they started manufacturing specific parts like carrier without clip guide, they still kept converting original SKS parts to accommodate D-functionality, thus "conversion".
Also I would recommend you to take a closer look at AK mag release, see the difference, and stop embarrassing yourself. D has "AK-style", but not exact copy of AK catch and release system. In AK magazine lug can't shift horizontally and get stuck, in SKS-D it can. That's why I call it hack-job conversion, they could have done it better with no additional costs, but they never cared as commercial market is different from military. While it works in most cases, wide tolerances in parts and magazines cause issues. No such issues with AK, as many military designs it's implemented with higher standards.
 
45ACPKING said:
there is only one SKS-D . It features an AK47 type magazine release and was made as such from the factory..... for whatever reason.
Changing mags on an sks-d is no different or problematic than changing mags on an AK47 and yet the AK gets praise but the sks-d does not?
Then there is the SKS M that came in a fatter stock with a rubber buttpad and came with 5 round mags. Back when these rifles were cheap and plentiful and full capacity mags were not prohibitted, we got to shoot a lot of these rifles side by side and the SKS-M , which is just a factory modified fixed mag, does not function with full capacity mags, they fall out of the rifle as it recoils due to thier weight. The sliding mag catch just doesn't hold the weight of a loaded full cap mag.
When the SHTF and the rifle you reach for can't accept and function with full cap mags it is a useless rifle.

I dunno about these T81 rifles as I'm not in the mood to pay those kind of prices for another rifle made in China. But if I did have an SKS-D i sure as heck wouldn't be trading it for a t81
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Thank you for this explanation, mines came from the factory and they are as reliable as an AK, i thought they came with one mag ( it been so long) but actually came with 3 each in the box, no stipper guide and removable bayonet. A sure thing i will never sell them they are so unique. Sadly the 6 steel AK mags remained unpinned and they were lost...
 
45ACPKING said:
The SKS-D was not a conversion, it employs a proprietory trigger group with an AK type mag release.
Any other SKS that accepts a detacheable magazine but doesn't have an AK type mag release is a Modified conversion..... such as the SKS-M
But i figured you knew that already

all arguments aside (t81 vs sks-d) I suppose it boils down to personal preference.
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I have to side with 45ACPKING on this. For those of us that are lucky enuf to have purchased one or more of these nifty little rifles when they were reasonably priced I am sure we got our values worth. Would I use the rifle for a sustained combat role probably not, However it sure is comforting to have around when the current government wants to know what you have and chooses to deprive you of other more expensive options.
 
caramel said:
Thank you for this explanation, mines came from the factory and they are as reliable as an AK, i thought they came with one mag ( it been so long) but actually came with 3 each in the box, no stipper guide and removable bayonet. A sure thing i will never sell them they are so unique. Sadly the 6 steel AK mags remained unpinned and they were lost...
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did you own, owned or shoot an ak enough for knowing the differences?

an sks d is not a ak47 and you cannot shoot soft point in an sks d or not enough to be reliable ... you can in an ak and in at 81 as well ...
 
do not get me wrong sks are great shtf gun for sure but the d is not better and especially at the price they re now.

if any t81 are coming on the market from ti that will be interesting to see the price they will be.

and on another note whatever you like buy it, use it cherish it before it is too late.
 
medvedqc said:
did you own, owned or shoot an ak enough for knowing the differences?

an sks d is not a ak47 and you cannot shoot soft point in an sks d or not enough to be reliable ... you can in an ak and in at 81 as well ...
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I have shot an AK at Kawanake at a friend place ( they dont even hide them), police are very carefull with the Mohaks. the fun factor is a lot bigger but the D is quite fun to, same mag, same release and same high capacity ( before the law to pin mags to five), reliability seem the same. 81 are more accurate but not more fun, no difference in reliability.
 
caramel said:
I have shot an AK at Kawanake at a friend place ( they dont even hide them), police are very carefull with the Mohaks. the fun factor is a lot bigger but the D is quite fun to, same mag, same release and same high capacity ( before the law to pin mags to five), reliability seem the same. 81 are more accurate but not more fun, no difference in reliability.
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Gotta love the Mohawks.
 
45ACPKING said:
The SKS-D was not a conversion, it employs a proprietory trigger group with an AK type mag release.
Any other SKS that accepts a detacheable magazine but doesn't have an AK type mag release is a Modified conversion..... such as the SKS-M
But i figured you knew that already.
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yes, i know my sh!t and all SKS-D was converted till they ran out. weird you judged a conversion from a singular component (trigger) rather that the main part, the receiver. all SKS-D receiver was converted from a regular SKS receiver part, only when they ran out did they make new ones. there are "D" out there with carrier milled for stripper clips but when that ran out, they started to make carrier specially for the "D" , same goes for the trigger and stocks.

interesting read in the link by horilka, go to the detachable D and midwest sections. midwest ordance started all this. i once had a collection of 4 "D".
 
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Leadwizard said:
Gotta love the Mohawks.
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When you are friend with them, it's like taking the Delorean back to the early 70th. You see and try thing you could only dream off, It's really a no man land for SQ and regular cops, Peacekeeper are high in the food chain. When this pandemic is over, i will resume my montly visit, good place for shooping cool stuff
 
caramel said:
When you are friend with them, it's like taking the Delorean back to the early 70th. You see and try thing you could only dream off, It's really a no man land for SQ and regular cops, Peacekeeper are high in the food chain. When this pandemic is over, i will resume my montly visit, good place for shooping cool stuff
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I have some sound friends out in Kahnawake, I haven't seen an Ak but I know a bunch of iron workers that have confirmed it. I need to head over to McComber Archery, it's a great shop.
 
Leadwizard said:
It helped me Identify mine, I have one without a stripper clip guide.
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excellent. when i was on the hunt for a original "D" thats one of the feature i look for to make sure it wasnt home converted.

i wish i kept all my "D" , after the chinese sks FAQ i sold them off cheeeaaaap.
 
FreedomIsn'tFree said:
What about the D's that came with no bayo, bayo lug or cutout in the stock for it?
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got to be a bit careful here.

incomplete bayo lugs are from china but no bayo lug or cut off bayo lug are well could be done here.

obvious no cut out for duck bill mag or bayo space under the handguard are also from china. watch carefully it wasnt filled in by wood.

the price between reg sks and the "D" is 3x so there are alot of home made jobs.
 
I thought I read somewhere that the ones without bayo's were for the American market at some point. I had ones years ago no bayo, no bayo lug, AK mag release and the stock had no cutout for the bayo or duckbill mag. It was in excellent condition with a near perfect condition stock. This was bought when they were still cheap about 15 years ago.
 
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at one point fixed bayo was too scary and evil so they (US) banned it but later they banned all sks from china.

so what did they do with the american orders already made? yup, they sent it to us.
 
Curtton said:
yes, i know my sh!t and all SKS-D was converted till they ran out. weird you judged a conversion from a singular component (trigger) rather that the main part, the receiver. all SKS-D receiver was converted from a regular SKS receiver part, only when they ran out did they make new ones. there are "D" out there with carrier milled for stripper clips but when that ran out, they started to make carrier specially for the "D" , same goes for the trigger and stocks.

interesting read in the link by horilka, go to the detachable D and midwest sections. midwest ordance started all this. i once had a collection of 4 "D".
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I know you guys have dived way deeper into the SKS than I have and I often find the knowledge shared to be useful.
I am NOT an SKS afficionado by any stretch but I have owned and shot the hell out of dozens of various models over the years but the majority was before they neutered our mags. Since then I haven't spent much time behind an sks but I do think everyone should have at least one..... regardless of type/model.
My posts were mainly in response to those who have never tried to fire a fully loaded mag in what I call a "faux" D.... those converted from fixed mag versions and retain the sliding magazine release.
In all my posts I refer to the true D model as having an AK47 Type or Style...... being careful to add those words as I realize that the SKS is certainly not an AK by any stretch, but they do share similar magazine release assemblies. I realize there are other factory modifications to the firearm that were required so they rifles feed from a magazine but I was simply making the distinction between the true D.... with AK47 type magazine release and D model fabricated from a fixed magazine model.
anyhow....... no need to beat the dead horse ;)
 
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