Where do you guys by your 9mm bullets
- Thread starter maka
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Bingo.
Businesses have overhead. Sometimes it makes sense to use the people and capacity you have to spare to do something outside your core business.
The problem is when that side business takes away from your core business.
Adding to the problem is when that side business competes against your core business.
Kurt makes bullets and loaded ammo.
His biggest customers would always be the local retailers.
Retailing the product himself puts him in conflict with his best customers.
Those customers have options (well most of the time).
- Location
- West Quebec
How do they compare to Campro?
- Location
- Halifax - NS
Zeros are actual jacketed bullets; Campro is a plated bullet.
By definition, the Zero should be a better bullet, but my experience is that the Campros exceed the expectations of a plated bullet and it puts them on par with the Zeros.
I've shot everything from GoldDots (premium jacketed hollowpoint), Berry, AIM, Ranier, Montana Gold and CamPro and the only ones I had issues with were the AIM bullets. The rest of them all shoot better than I can out of my various 9mm guns. With 147gr Campros and a benched Shadow I can keep 3 inch groups at 50yds. Once dialed in free hand I can hit standard clay pigeons on a hill at 100m 10 for 10 (usually takes a couple to figure out drop).
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- Location
- Mississauga, Ontario
Unless that's using a ransom rest I'd have to see it in person to believe it.
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- Location
- West Quebec
Thanks...
While working up loads, I shot an 8 round 1.75" group with campros at 20 yards, off a sandbag. I'm not that great of a shot, either. The Shadow is a cheater gun.
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CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Mississauga, Ontario
20 yards is a far cry from 50 when looking at a target with Pistol sights.
About 5 years ago I did as formal a test of bullet accuracy as I was capable of. Using my 38 Super Open gun with identical loads in new RP brass, 7.4 gr Longshot and Winchester primers. loaded up test batches of Cdn BDX, Montana Gold, Speer and Aim bullets (all 124 gr). OAL was fractionally different due to different nose designs, as I did not readjust the seating die for overall length between loads. All except the Aim are jacketed bullets, the Aims are plated bullets.
I test fired 2 groups of 5 bullets each from a bench at 25 yards and measured group sizes of each, averaging the sizes of the 2 groups. My results (rounded to 1 decimal point) were:
Montana Gold: 1.0"
Speer: 1.2"
Cdn BDX: 1.4"
Aim: 1.6"
As you can see, although Aim was at the bottom of the list, the accuracy is still quite good.
-ivan-
I test fired 2 groups of 5 bullets each from a bench at 25 yards and measured group sizes of each, averaging the sizes of the 2 groups. My results (rounded to 1 decimal point) were:
Montana Gold: 1.0"
Speer: 1.2"
Cdn BDX: 1.4"
Aim: 1.6"
As you can see, although Aim was at the bottom of the list, the accuracy is still quite good.
-ivan-
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I use the jacketed Speers for practice and XTPs for match. The smallest changes or conditions can effect your bullet travel.
Most of you know this but shooting a one inch group at 25 is not the same as a two inch group at 50. It will give you a good idea though.
Ivan, your gun is one better than our 38 supers? Haha!
I wish I could shoot as good as my guns can!
Most of you know this but shooting a one inch group at 25 is not the same as a two inch group at 50. It will give you a good idea though.
Ivan, your gun is one better than our 38 supers? Haha!
I wish I could shoot as good as my guns can!
I get acceptable accuracy from Berry plated bullets in one of my open guns, but horrible accuracy from any plated bullets in my other one. I seem to recall that the rifling on it is some weird, bizarre twist, though.
