Which .22 LR Bolt Action

Stinger, Yellow Jackets and Mini-mags? For 'target shooting' I wouldn't even consider any of these, and I don't think I have seen anyone at any type of 'target shooting' competition choose that ammo either.

If you are hunting 25 yards or so I guess people would shoot them just for the velocity as accuracy is usually not very good. A .22LR cartridge from Lapua, SK, Eley or RWS will be what you end up shooting if you want any consistent accuracy.
 
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In case any of you missed my other thread in the OPTICS FORUM I’m looking to scope the CZ 457 Varmint .22 LR
Not trying to be a pain just would like some recommendations and information
Thank You !
Leavenworth
 
azelyk said:
CZ is a far better option at the price point. If you want a Rem 700 footprint .22lr trainer go with Vudoo or RimX
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Thanks for the reply!

The voodoo/rimX are about double the price of the Bergera it seems. That’s out my league. I’ll keep an eye on Black Friday prices for CZs.
 
azelyk said:
CZ is a far better option at the price point. If you want a Rem 700 footprint .22lr trainer go with Vudoo or RimX
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This has not been remotely true in my experience or the experience of several of the best PRS shooters in Canada.
RimX is at best a crapshoot for function and uses proprietary magazines, Vudoo might be a little more accurate than the Bergara but they are very close.
I have yet to see a factory CZ outshoot or out function a Bergara.
Plus the chassis outs your CZ into open class. If you get an exceptional factory barrel it might be accurate enough but you are still stuck with the ergonomic downsides of the tiny magazine alongside the overall magazine function issues that show up in CZs being run hard.

If the OP has no competition plans all this is irrelevant.
 
Grantmac said:
This has not been remotely true in my experience or the experience of several of the best PRS shooters in Canada.
RimX is at best a crapshoot for function and uses proprietary magazines, Vudoo might be a little more accurate than the Bergara but they are very close.
I have yet to see a factory CZ outshoot or out function a Bergara.
Plus the chassis outs your CZ into open class. If you get an exceptional factory barrel it might be accurate enough but you are still stuck with the ergonomic downsides of the tiny magazine alongside the overall magazine function issues that show up in CZs being run hard.

If the OP has no competition plans all this is irrelevant.
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Competition at some point might be good but right now I’m my own competition. I just like to see what my equipment and myself is capable of. I’m not that interested in benchrest shooting although at my range the firing line is all benches but when people clear off I’ll get my mat out and shoot prone mostly.
 
Alchemist said:
Thanks for the reply!

The voodoo/rimX are about double the price of the Bergera it seems. That’s out my league. I’ll keep an eye on Black Friday prices for CZs.
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Vudoo 360 barrelled action is about 1600-1800.
RimX action + PVA barrel is about 2000-2200.
if you count barrel+action only, it's true that it doubles the price of Bergera.
But if you count in other stuff, such as the most significant one like chassis, the price difference is not so substantial, especially if you go with some high-end ones like MPA Matrix (about $2500), Manners TCS (about $2600), or a little bit humble like KRG Whiskey (about $1500).

That being said, CZ is still a viable option. It has the best price/value from my experience. With about 1000 to 1500-ish (depending on your choice of match or non-match barrel) you get a whole package (minus the scope) for a very reliable/accurate/shootable gun.
 
This thread is making me want to buy another .22lr.....but which one?
Until then I just might replace the Bushnell .223AR 3-12x that's currently on my Savage TR. It was meant to be temporary but got busy with "other stuff".
Trying to decide on a scope is almost as tough as a new .22lr bolt......
 
JQIAN said:
Vudoo 360 barrelled action is about 1600-1800.
RimX action + PVA barrel is about 2000-2200.
if you count barrel+action only, it's true that it doubles the price of Bergera.
But if you count in other stuff, such as the most significant one like chassis, the price difference is not so substantial, especially if you go with some high-end ones like MPA Matrix (about $2500), Manners TCS (about $2600), or a little bit humble like KRG Whiskey (about $1500).

That being said, CZ is still a viable option. It has the best price/value from my experience. With about 1000 to 1500-ish (depending on your choice of match or non-match barrel) you get a whole package (minus the scope) for a very reliable/accurate/shootable gun.
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Thanks for the response.

Trying to decide what I want to do with a limited budget. Upgrade my 10/22 or invest in a more accurate .22 (I have a Ruger precision rimfire) Also wrestling with whether I want to limit myself to top tier ammunition too as the big appeal of shooting .22 is that it’s relatively cheap.
 
johNTO said:
This thread is making me want to buy another .22lr.....but which one?
Until then I just might replace the Bushnell .223AR 3-12x that's currently on my Savage TR. It was meant to be temporary but got busy with "other stuff".
Trying to decide on a scope is almost as tough as a new .22lr bolt......
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Give you an idea. One of my 22lr’s:
Vudoo 360 barrelled action
Manners PRS TCS mini-chassis stock
Minox ZP5, 5-25 scope

I’m very happy about it. You can never have enough 22lr
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Alchemist said:
Thanks for the response.

Trying to decide what I want to do with a limited budget. Upgrade my 10/22 or invest in a more accurate .22 (I have a Ruger precision rimfire) Also wrestling with whether I want to limit myself to top tier ammunition too as the big appeal of shooting .22 is that it’s relatively cheap.
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I have had a limited experience of 10/22, but my presumption tells me that semi-auto cannot compete with bolt action in terms of accuracy. You will be better off with a decent bolt action, such as cz457.
As for ammo, cheap stuff is around 10-12 cents each these days. You don’t have to crazy way up to top tier like Eley tenex or Lapua Midas stuff which costs about 60+ cents each round. Some middle tier stuff like SK long range or Biathlon is good enough to my taste which costs about 20 cents
 
I second JQUIAN's suggestion re a 457. The Varmint seems pretty accurate, the MTR even better then up to Bergera ? Depends on your 'Upgrade Budget' and your expectations.
 
JQIAN.....nice set up! Looks great and probably shoots amazing too.
I have a feeling your scope/rings is way more than I want to spend but x-mas is coming....maybe I'll ask the wife for one :)
 
johNTO said:
JQIAN.....nice set up! Looks great and probably shoots amazing too.
I have a feeling your scope/rings is way more than I want to spend but x-mas is coming....maybe I'll ask the wife for one :)
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It does shoot well.
But performance doesn’t have linear relationship to price, and mostly likely it observes concave, meaning diminishing performance gain on additional dollar spent. An unscientific toy example will be $500 barrel gets 2 MOA group and $1000 barrel gets you 1 MOA but when you get $2000 barrel you won’t get 0.5 MOA rather you get 0.75 or even 0.9.
That’s why I strongly recommend CZ457 because I feel it’s on the kinky peak point of that concave line.

As for scope it’s same idea, diminishing performance on additional dollar spent. If you can spare some cash of course by all means go as crazy as Khalid, ZCO, Tangent. But for rimfire most important you want is FFP and adjustable parrallax, which you can easily find from lots of sub-$1000 scope.

That particular Minox ZP5 is certainly overkill for a rimfire and that Spuhr mount is definitely unnecessary. Both of them are bulky and heavy. But Minox is by far the most pleasing glass I have ever looked among others including Leica PRS and Nightforce NX8. I don’t have a scientific proof but it just looks nice.
It is not inexpensive for sure but it’s not too crazy either, kind of in the league of Khalid and Leica PRS and cheaper than Tangent and ZCO.
 
I've never had one of the new savage rifles nor a CZ. I have heard people say that both can be fussy on ammo . I like the older stuff . Cooey's marlins and Winchesters. and in this day and age you need a rifle that functions and shoots good with what you can find. I find if ironic that I look south of the border and can see 22 ammo for sale but there is a shortage up here . I've seen some stupid prices south of the border even on 22 ammo. if you can afford it I'd go for an Annie . a guy at my club had a target one for sale several months ago . $600 or so . I couldn't see spending the coin on it at the time . a buddy said it was worth double .

they are said to be the most accurate 22 rifle . I don't like anything too heavy . I remember one time I was shooting at the club and I could have sworn I could hear someone snickering ? right next to me was a guy with a 10-22 and he had changed the barrel for a short barrel that if I remember correctly was a carbon fiber heavy 16 inch barrel . Green River ? anyways he had a nice scope ion the top and buddy was shooting quarter inch groups. they were all one hole . I'll never forget the snickering lol .
 
Meroh said:
Brno or CZ; used or new, can't go wrong........... I made a butt plate from Rose wood.
New is not always better.

New is not always better....these are words to live by. I might even say that old is often better.

Thanks for the Rose wood butt plate idea. I've been thinking of what to do, to fix my 452 Style's rotted out rubber buttplate. I might go with 3/4 inch marine plywood if I can find a suitable grain. Oiled, it might make an interesting and durable buttplate. Seems a common problem with the synthetic stocks of that era.
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