Which 300gr bullet in a .375 H&H for moose and elk?

todbartell said:
300gr Partition after it penetrated about half a foot of black bear

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My old Browning Safari really likes good old 300gr RN Hornady's. I like that they are not overly long in my 98 action. Havent taken any game with this one yet, but I think the Hornady's can handle any Elk,Moose or bears I run into in Alberta this September.
Geoff
Victoria,BC.
 
Dogleg said:
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I shot a 7 ft black bear a few years ago at about 90 yards. He was hit in the lungs but took a couple of steps over and down a bank, so I ran up to him to finish him off.

These 2 Partitions were fired at close range, from above, into his spine. The spine stopped them.
 
Gatehouse said:
I shot a 7 ft black bear a few years ago at about 90 yards. He was hit in the lungs but took a couple of steps over and down a bank, so I ran up to him to finish him off.

These 2 Partitions were fired at close range, from above, into his spine. The spine stopped them.
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So these bullets are the finishers through the spine? I'm guessing you abandoned them after that?

I did my level best to shoot through a wounded buffalo lengthwise last April. When it spun around at the first shot, I put a 270 grain A-Frame through it's hip, through a couple or three feet of spine and ended up all the way up at its offside shoulder. All his legs immediately quit working.:D

I never got past load testing with the partitions in 2 different .375s. The groups would make a cowboy cry.
 
.375 cal. bullets

I have one of the new Ruger Alaskans in .375 Ruger. I used the well priced and well constructed Hornaday bullets in 300 gr.
 
Dogleg said:
So these bullets are the finishers through the spine? I'm guessing you abandoned them after that?

I did my level best to shoot through a wounded buffalo lengthwise last April. When it spun around at the first shot, I put a 270 grain A-Frame through it's hip, through a couple or three feet of spine and ended up all the way up at its offside shoulder. All his legs immediately quit working.:D

I never got past load testing with the partitions in 2 different .375s. The groups would make a cowboy cry.
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yes, these were the finishers. The load was accurate, but not really impressed with the bullet performance. I sold that H&H afterwards.
 
I have shot several moose & my largest blacktail with a 375 H&H loaded with 300gr Partitions all of the bullets that were recovered looked exactly like those pictured.

I shot my last grizzly with the 300gr Partitions but from my first 375RUM @ 230 - 250 yards the bullet entered the right side chest exited the left side chest leaving a 5" - 6" exit hole in the ribs bullet then traveled thru the left front shoulder and exited I did not recover the bullet.

After seeing my son put a 200gr A-Frame from my 300RUM lengthwise thru a 8' grizzly the bullet entered right rear hindquarter and exited left front shoulder I switched to 300gr A-Frames they are just as accurate as my Partion loads but being bonded the front core will not separate like the Partitions do.

CC
 
While premium bullets are indeed good bullets, in my experience they are not really needed at 375 H&H velocities. My father and I hunted (and still do) with 300gr Sierra gamekings and they are a very accurate, tough, reliable and less expensive bullet. My dad is a dedicated double-front-shoulder shooter (hard on bullets) and I can tell you these bullets do not come apart at .375 H&H velocities, even at ranges of less than 50 yards. I've got a perfectly mushroomed one somewhere that put down a 69" bull moose with a double shoulder shot and it looks just like a bullet should after doing it's job. I'll post a pic when I find it. All of the 300 gr Gamekings I've recovered, or seen recovered, had the classic mushroom shape and had very good weight retention. The only difference I've seen between the 300 gr Gamekings and 300 gr Partitions, is the Gamekings cost half as much and have a better BC.

EDIT - Pics. Retained weight was 237gr (started as 300)

EDIT - Thanks to Tod Bartell and Mauser98 - for spotting what seems so obvious. This IS NOT the 300 gr gameking I going on about...It's a 300gr Hornady RN (old school model). This one was also recovered from a double front shoulder shot on a Yukon moose.

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There's aplenty of 300 gr bullets to choose from, you have to decide which ones suit your purposes the best. If the range is short, an exposed lead a round nose is tough to beat, but if you want to reach out there the 300 gr ABs are accurate and slippery. As an good all around bullet, the TSX get my vote, although the 270 gr would shoot a little flatter. Nothing on your list will stand up to any reasonable bullet from that rifle.
 
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I have used my Sako 375HH for 20 some years. It shoots dime shot, 3 shot groups at 100M. I used Ken Water's Pet Loads. I use the 300 Partiton with 76 gr of 760. All the cases are neck turned and flashholes are redone. I will not shoot a shoulder shot, it just wastes meat! I nearly only shoot heart/lung, a few neck or head shots. Depending on the game shot, the 300 partiton expands according to the resitance met. So deer while have an exit wound of about 50 cal and turn everything inside into a gell. I have shot some bear with it. One turned as I shot. I got a lung and then it hit the collar bone making a 4 inch hole at the clollar bone. The others were heart and lung only with a bit bigger than an inch exit hole. No bear went more than a foot or normaly would go end over end and die. I have never found a bullet as they all exited.

The 375HH does not need an exotic bullet. The A-Frame are nice but there is cheaper stuff that works. Bullet placement is my number one priority for a quick and efficient kill. Last year, I had a chance at a male leopard and a world record Impala. I did not shoot because I could not garantee a clean one shot kill. I got a nice Kudu just shy of the record books.

Regards,

Henry;)
 
The OP wanted advice (opinion?) on 300 gr premium bullets. My only comment would be that I think the TSX might be a tad long, thereby limiting case capacity. Or not.

It is always more fun to work up your own loads, run 'em over a chrony and shoot for group, repeat, and then do whatever you wanted to do in the first place!
You just know a 375 HH is gonna get it done on a moose or an elk. A 270 win will, so the same hit with a .375 will. And, the same miss with either will cripple as well.
 
I have shot moose with both Barnes 270 Xs and Hornady 300 RN. The Hornady definitely kills quicker than the Barnes.

Watched a really big, 700 pound, mountain caribou bull get dispatched with a 270 gr TSX this fall. It did just fine, but that bull certainly took longer to go down than I had expected.

I would use the Hornady,

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but help yourself to whatever you want!

Ted
 
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I have shot moose with both Barnes 270 Xs and Hornady 300 RN. The Hornady definitely kills quicker than the Barnes.

Watched a really big, 700 pound, mountain caribou bull get dispatched with a 270 gr TSX this fall. It did just fine, but that bull certainly took longer to go down than I had expected.

I would use the Hornady
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So the question here is .... Does it make a big difference in the bullet type if the game is shot in the lungs as the aforementioned caribou was? I'm not asking about penetration through heavy bones and muscle, just a double lung pass through, maybe clipping a rib or two. I shot a small moose in '08 with a 260gr AB and it reacted the same as that caribou. Two bullets, through the lungs and stopped against the hide on the far side. I'm not sure a different bullet would have gave different results in these two examples.

Here's the exit on that caribou with 270gr TSX. Lots of expansion and passed right through.

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