Which dealer has repo mosin "snipers"?

westrifle_sks said:
I wish we could figure out together with a bottle of vodka what is sniper rifle to be consider in 1942. I don't want to argue with anyone here I just want to say that at that time anything that had a scope was consider to be a sniper.

Regards

Al

PS I wish I could sell those cheaper, but it is what it is I am the cheapest on the whole wide internet for 480. I beg you to find one for cheaper in the condition I have those in
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Agree with you, a scope doesnt transform a regular infantry rifle into a match rifle. The Mosin sniper were selected because they were a bit more accurate than the whole lot but they still are not target rifle. A scope doesnt make a target rifle from a regular one, the scope allow you to see what you are aiming at:)
Joce
 
westrifle_sks said:
I wish we could figure out together with a bottle of vodka what is sniper rifle to be consider in 1942. I don't want to argue with anyone here I just want to say that at that time anything that had a scope was consider to be a sniper.

Regards

Al

PS I wish I could sell those cheaper, but it is what it is I am the cheapest on the whole wide internet for 480. I beg you to find one for cheaper in the condition I have those in
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Hey there. I think I can help with this one: the guys on cgn get a little bent out of shape because the media likes to classify rifles with scopes as "sniper rifles" which in turn, makes them a target for the anti's. I don't think anyone would disagree that a mosin with a scope in WW2 would be a sniper rifle - it's an argument of semantics. That's all :)

Plus - I think 480 is a fair price. I remember they were 700 before you lowered the prices. I was just saying if you wanted to sell me two for 350 a piece, you let me know ;) I'd buy em! Hahah - ps - still looking for the PE / PEM mounts and scopes ;)
 
Well I picked one up locally! for 550 (private sale) comes with all the originals+a 440 can of surplus+can opener;)

Any who heres the rifle! I havnet gotten to take it out yet, my club has had a family weekend all last weekend so the range was closed. Every firearm I have that has a scope I prefer to sight in at the range oppose to the bush since I dont have sand bags and what not. Im super excited to see how this ol dog shoots, hopefully this weekend will work in my favor.

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It is one of mine rifles I can see it from a picture. Whoever sold it to you privately bought it from me. So thank you for buying. Hope you enjoy it.


rodngun said:
Well I picked one up locally! for 550 (private sale) comes with all the originals+a 440 can of surplus+can opener;)

Any who heres the rifle! I havnet gotten to take it out yet, my club has had a family weekend all last weekend so the range was closed. Every firearm I have that has a scope I prefer to sight in at the range oppose to the bush since I dont have sand bags and what not. Im super excited to see how this ol dog shoots, hopefully this weekend will work in my favor.

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westrifle_sks said:
I just want to say that at that time anything that had a scope was consider to be a sniper.
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But were they putting scopes on regular infantry rifles? Nope. They paired them with sniper designated barrels.



westrifle_sks said:
I wish we could figure out together with a bottle of vodka what is sniper rifle to be consider in 1942.
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Al, you seem like a great guy and I mean no disrespect. A WWII sniper didn't need a scope (some didn't use them), but chances are any Soviet rifle issued to a sniper came with a sniper designated barrel stamp.

The point is this... if the barrel was tested for accuracy at production in 1942 and not determined to be inherently accurate enough for Russian snipers, it was used for regular infantry. Thus the repro 'snipers' with regular infantry barrels are lacking one element that will always religate them to the status of 'fake' sniper rifles, a sniper barrel.

A sniper could take the PU scope off a sniper rifle and it'll still a sniper rifle. Likewise, you can't turn a regular infantry rifle into a sniper by adding a scope. Think about it for a moment... if these repro snipers can really be called 'sniper rifles', then there's no reason you couldn't add a scope to any milsurp and call it a sniper rifle. That just isn't the case.

If they were using ex-snipers with actual sniper barrels for those repro snipers, I'd be much more interested, even though I realize they would be more expensive.

I'm not running down the price exactly, as those scopes and mounts are pricy on their own. So $500 for a regular mosin and mounted PU scope is probably a fair deal considering the cost of scoping it yourself. I can think of better ways to spend $500 though. Its more an issue of 'value': what you are getting for what you pay. I'd feel better about a restored ex-sniper for $650.
 
So if it was ex sniper with a new scope but with fairly used barrel you would like that more.
As to argue with you on "sniper" barrel it is not an online discussion because there is going to be many opinions and no one wins in this. Sniper rifles were chosen by sniper himself or by factory specialist. Remember Stalin was in power so all Mosin were made to highest standard.
I am not trying to push my product. I have been in a factories and talked to old specialist just because I wanted to hear from them what is the deal.

Cheers

Al
 
As a newbie, and a guy that appreciates how miltary firearms have done their part to shape the world, I do like these Mosin's offered by Westrifle, altered or not its not like we are short on them, but thats only my opinion.

I personally like the idea of having a big scoped rifle that I can shoot fairly cheap, I have a mosin with iron sights and even at 200 yards it was an absolutely blast but at a range without a spotter it can get a bit dry, optics can really make things exciting.

I am considering one of these scoped Mosins just because my friend has an unaltered one and they are a blast to shoot but shooting a scoped one to see what kind of accuracy I can muster is quite exciting to me. I am far from being able to afford to drop 2K + needed to get myself into Precision Shooting
 
westrifle_sks said:
So if it was ex sniper with a new scope but with fairly used barrel you would like that more.
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Well, the ex-sniper I bought from you for $250 had a fine barrel. Had that been setup with a PU scope I could see myself paying $650 for a restored ex-sniper, yes.

I don't buy the idea that sniper rifles have more worn barrels generally. RoF goes up as the distances close, not the other way around. Infantry rifles are also more likely used as clubs or for bayo charge. For every sniper/ex-sniper with a bad barrel there's probably x 10 infantry rifles with bad barrels.
 
i bought a mosin from westrifle and love it, i plan on taking it hunting moose this year if i my number pulled in the leh, i will be using 150grain sp. I put a 2-7x scout scope on it and a muzzlebrake and bipod. the gun is very accurate for hunting, hence the scope. my muzzlebrake was damaged during one of my shooting sessions and they replaced it when i emailed them. you cant go wrong with a mosin, tha gun is cheap to buy, ammo is cheap to buy
 
olympia said:
i bought a mosin from westrifle and love it, i plan on taking it hunting moose this year if i my number pulled in the leh, i will be using 150grain sp. I put a 2-7x scout scope on it and a muzzlebrake and bipod. the gun is very accurate for hunting, hence the scope. my muzzlebrake was damaged during one of my shooting sessions and they replaced it when i emailed them. you cant go wrong with a mosin, tha gun is cheap to buy, ammo is cheap to buy
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I am very hit and miss with the idea of a scout scope, yet you can put one on with little to no modifications to the gun itself but the long eye relief is something I am not sure I will be able to be accurate with.
 
Steeltownguy said:
I am very hit and miss with the idea of a scout scope, yet you can put one on with little to no modifications to the gun itself but the long eye relief is something I am not sure I will be able to be accurate with.
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im just curious, what makes you think you wont be accurate with a scout scope? the only thing about scout scopes is i can only find one that goes to a max of 7x, but they are plenty accurate, try one...westrifle has them for a good price and i like them, i also got one from tradex
 
if your friend is going to install a scout scope on his mosin just let him know that all you have to do is remove the rear sight, there are 2 pins holding it on the first one came out super easy with a punch but i used a drill press on the second, after you get the pins out you just slide the sight off which will reveal a 3/8 dovetail groove, but when you install the rings you have to jb weld/jb bond them on or else your scope will slide forward from the recoil, if you dont like to use jb weld then you might as well get a b-square mount form tradex, the method i have used works so far and i have pumped out at least 200 rounds
 
Steeltownguy said:
I am very hit and miss with the idea of a scout scope, yet you can put one on with little to no modifications to the gun itself but the long eye relief is something I am not sure I will be able to be accurate with.
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Yea, because the Mosin rear sight is so far forward, the eye relief on any scope mounted there has to be pretty long. There's a reason the Soviets used side mounts on the receiver.
 
Yea I really do like the ones from westrifle, that already have a side mounted scope. I have been looking for someone selling them closer to home so I can see one upclose but so far the ones I have found are 2x more and in what the seller would describe to be fair..maybe because its not a repro but right now I am not looking for historical accuracy I am looking for a milsurp that is accurate for me at 2-300 yrds and is cheap to shoot.
 
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