Which NEA ar15 should I buy?

Wow pal, you need to post smaller pictures.

Looks like your camber had a reaming issue. Time to try out the lifetime warranty. Did you call or e-mail the vendor or manufacturer yet? If not, try that first before looking for help on the forums - we can't get your barrel warrantied for you ;)
 
Yea my bad. As soon as I posted the pictures I realized they were too big and fixed them. As of yet no one has been contacted but that's not what I was posting about. I was posting my experience with NEA's product as of now. The owners of the range told us that it wasn't the first they have heard of the bad reaming job in an NEA but as I was unable to find any pictures I thought I would post my own. I think I will just return the rifle instead of using the warranty because there are problems that they would not be able to fix without rethinking their lower.
 
bjs7293 said:
If you are in the market for an AR it does not matter what you get. They are all clones of a proven design that each manufacture puts their own twist on. If you like specific options then order your rifle with them. If you like the classic M4 then do not count out the Norinco M4's. There are alot of them out there with high round counts and still going strong. There is alot of hype out there on what you should get and what you should not. Take everything with a grain of salt........
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I definitely want the m16 look.... so I think I'll forget NEA.... i dont like the style of them.

its going to be more like a stag arms 1R (I dont really want any optics on this, it,s really a 0-100 yards rifle for me, iron sights will be fine wont they?) I like the look of the handle. (unless there are cheap (200$ max) optics that are way better than sights?) (but i really dig the handle) ;)

So what about the norinco chinese CQ from marstar? 700$, seems like a hell of a deal at half the price of the stag.

Cheapo quality or what? Why is the stag twice the price?

Comments ?
 
Kryogen said:
I definitely want the m16 look.... so I think I'll forget NEA.... i dont like the style of them.

its going to be more like a stag arms 1R (I dont really want any optics on this, it,s really a 0-100 yards rifle for me, iron sights will be fine wont they?) I like the look of the handle. (unless there are cheap (200$ max) optics that are way better than sights?) (but i really dig the handle) ;)

So what about the norinco chinese CQ from marstar? 700$, seems like a hell of a deal at half the price of the stag.

Cheapo quality or what? Why is the stag twice the price?

Comments ?
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Comments? Yeah, here's one. You have your answer already. Buy the Stag or consider another quality brand.

The chamber issue the BlackAven has is completely inexcusable. It's obvious the rifle either wasn't test fired or it was done by someone who lacks the competency necessary to perform the task. This is not an isolated incident. There have been others who have reported similar issues with suspected rough chambers.

The stiff trigger issue was something else that bothered me about NEA. Yes, they did the customers right by sending out replacement springs but why did they have to do so in the first place? Assuming the rifles were test fired, anyone even remotely expereinced in shooting AR's would realize that a 12lb. trigger pull is completely unacceptable.

Why NEA did not do a sample test to ensure the quality of the parts from their contracted vendor is beyond me. They should have never made it to the production line to begin with.

Not much wonder there's a price increase on new orders from NEA. These f**k-ups have gotta be costing these guys dearly.
 
Kryogen said:
I definitely want the m16 look.... so I think I'll forget NEA.... i dont like the style of them.

its going to be more like a stag arms 1R (I dont really want any optics on this, it,s really a 0-100 yards rifle for me, iron sights will be fine wont they?) I like the look of the handle. (unless there are cheap (200$ max) optics that are way better than sights?) (but i really dig the handle) ;)

So what about the norinco chinese CQ from marstar? 700$, seems like a hell of a deal at half the price of the stag.

Cheapo quality or what? Why is the stag twice the price?

Comments ?
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What is quality to you? If you can find a product that suits your fancy and does the job it is suppose to do at half the price why pay more. Just search this forum and others. Other so called quality AR makers can ask the price they ask because people pay the price.
 
Kryogen said:
(I dont really want any optics on this, it,s really a 0-100 yards rifle for me, iron sights will be fine wont they?) I like the look of the handle. (unless there are cheap (200$ max) optics that are way better than sights?) (but i really dig the handle) ;)
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Yes irons are fine. Busting 4" clays at 100 is easy and once you understand how to work the sights (get A2's) you can hit shilouettes out to 400- 500 no problem.

If you can't hit with irons it won't matter what you bolt on top of a rifle. Cheap optics are junk, as always the good stuff costs money. At the distance you mentioned however, optics are unnecessary. Happy shooting;)
 
Wow, so much hate for NEA. They are new to manufacturing complete AR's, there will be kinks. That being said, if you don't want to be one of the initial guinea pigs and buy one, then you really don't deserve to slander them either. To me, it was much more important to support a Canadian company trying to get off the ground.

I did buy one, and even though mine has an issue, I'm still very happy that I did buy one. The service thus far has gone well beyond expectations.

Someone said the build quality isn't that high? Hmmm...

My best friend and I went to the range, he's a carbine operator for the police here. He brought his Colt C8 and we compared the two... They are AR15's, how much different can they possibly be? Is it the colour finish? Totally subjective, but both of the rifles looked and felt great in my eyes, he's actually jealous of all the rails on mine. Haha.

Supporting a Canadian company is important to me and that's why I chose the NEA.
 
Easy as this: If you don't like NEA, don't buy one. This isn't rocket science! If you feel a Stag or Core, or LMT, or RRA, or whatever other brand is better, then buy one of them.

I for one will be buying an NEA-15 18" Enhanced DMR when they get released. Wont be for a few months yet, but that is fine, as it is too cold to go shooting in winter here anyways.

I want to encourage Canadian manufacturing.

Also, as I have been reading a lot of the threads regarding NEA QC and well as NEA in general, I have yet to see the poster NEA do anything in my opinion to bring such hate towards him and his product. So there might have been some issues with a first run product! ovrec

You think GM or Ford, or Colt or whoever put out a perfect product the first time they made something? Hell, most of them screw up all the time. But the key thing about this all is the desire to FIX WHAT WENT WRONG! Car manufactures do it all the time with recalls, and upgrades and the like, and their warranty is only 5 years at best on the total unit! NEA drops a LIFETIME warranty on their entire product and people complain about QC issues?

Let your money talk. If you don't like NEA, don't support them. If they are still making firearms in 5 or 10 years, I guess that closes the book on their quality issues, doesn't it?

To the OP, sorry for the hi-jack. I vote anything, so long as we get more ARs out there in the hands of honest, hard-working Canadians.
 
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Kryogen said:
god those NEA issues really scare the hell out of me......
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Just don't understand why they don't test fired them before they sent it out!!!. Most does!... this kind of problems will be avoided if it is tested. I hate to send it back and forth for warrenty work, I perferably not to if I don't have to....and who will pay for the shipping?
 
Buy the Norinco in 14.5", a dozen Pmags, and 1000 rounds of AE.

Go to M4Carbine.net, and read the sticky on what to check on your rifle prior to shooting.

Shoot the 1000 rounds. Also, try to attend a carbine course, or get some instruction from a suitably qualified person.

Decide what on the rifle doesn't work for you. Upgrade those parts/accessories only. Do not buy anything just because it looks cool or the deltarangerseals use it. If you can, try to use a rifle with the same parts/accessories before purchasing, to decide whether they will do what you want them to.

If you get Black Rifle Disease, and you will, take all the money you have saved, and buy another rifle, and set it up similar to the current one. By this time, you should also have acquired another dozen or two Pmags, a sling that works for you, and maybe an optic of your choice.

You could also just purchase a separate upper, so you have a couple of different purpose rifles (say a carbine and CQB/PDW, or carbine and Recce/SPR/DMR).

For your second AR, you could even decide to build it yourself, to give you a better understanding of the system. You should also begin to acquire some spare parts (Check the stickies on M4C again for this), and these, along with the tools you buy for your build will enable you to diagnose faults and perform preventative maintenance on your rifles (and maybe even your buddies' rifles as well by this stage).

Of course, this is the internet, it's just my opinion, and it's your money.

Regards.

Mark
 
BlackAven said:
I got my NEA 15 14.5 for xmas. It doesn't have a single shot without a malfunction (look at pictures). Mag well is very loose, lots of play between it
and mag (forwards and backwards play). Slide catch is a very loose fit in the receiver. The main problem is the chamber being machined wrongly
creating rings on spent brass witch creates more surface area and stops the round from ejecting (ruining the brass). While this problem would
probably be fixed with a new barrel the other problems make me worried that I will encounter more malfunctions including, but not limited to,
the slide catch to be worn down to breaking point and plain FTFs. I'm thinking I will just return the rifle and get a core 15. Do you guys test fire your
rifles before you ship them out?
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This is part of the same batch that we've been trying to play catch up on. As we had to explain before there was a small batch of rifles that were tested with suppressors at the shop. The extra backpressure from those devices allowed the rifles to operate perfectly. ALL Rifles are test fired before leaving the shop. However, we assumed that alone would catch an issue like this.. it didn't. So we have been trying to track down these rifles and offering a complete upper swap.

We had some QC issues in our early batches. They have all been addressed and rectified. Anyone with an issue has been dealt with immediately and at our complete expense. But this issue and others posted here are not 'repeat' concerns, they are all part of the same batch. It is a issue, yes, and we've been dealing with it.

We've run a few hundred rifles through the shop in the last two months. We've had a couple issues on the way through, but policies have been put in place to ensure that they don't repeat themselves. And they haven't. That's all we can do.
 
kinggeorge168 said:
Just don't understand why they don't test fired them before they sent it out!!!. Most does!... this kind of problems will be avoided if it is tested. I hate to send it back and forth for warrenty work, I perferably not to if I don't have to....and who will pay for the shipping?
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As we said, ALL rifles are test fired before shipping. A few batches were test fired with suppressors, which didn't give us a representative result.

As for shipping of these parts.. everyone we have contacted has received a new upper in the mail with a return postage slip to send theirs back once they get their replacement. No one in the industry does this. But it was our mistake and we're not going to make our customers have to jump through hoops because of it.
 
North Eastern Arms said:
As we said, ALL rifles are test fired before shipping. A few batches were test fired with suppressors, which didn't give us a representative result.

As for shipping of these parts.. everyone we have contacted has received a new upper in the mail with a return postage slip to send theirs back once they get their replacement. No one in the industry does this. But it was our mistake and we're not going to make our customers have to jump through hoops because of it.
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No one can ever say that you guys don't step up and do the right thing for your customers, that's for sure. Hope all the QC issues are resolved in short order.
 
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