Which Rifle for Whitetail?

Wouldn't you rather have the 140gr bullet driving home?
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I have been going round and round with this since I first heard the hunt was on...
the 25 has a little less recoil and shoots flat as piss on a plate...
the 270 cycles like lightning and delivers more energy...
the .25 is unbelievably accurate and bucks the wind well...
the .270 is lighter and has the boone and crocket reticle...
and I do have the Tikka Man costume...... :roll:
 
John Y Cannuck said:
Huntsman said:
How about the 30-30 :?:

Huntsman :)
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Ok funny guy.
. But it's hardly a long range number. It doesn't have the energy levels, or the speed to cleanly take big game.
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I don't make a habit of taking long shots,if the animal is too far I"ll just get closer,but hey,thats just the way I hunt :wink:

Huntsman :)
 
I don't make a habit of taking long shots,if the animal is too far I"ll just get closer,but hey,thats just the way I hunt :wink:
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Nothing wrong with that Huntsman... most of our deer are taken with slugguns, bows and muzzleloaders at very close range... and often they are running.
I take great pleasure in sniping at long range with a rifle and practice on the range and in the field on varmints all year around. 8)
I have great confidence in my hunting partner and I know my limitations, I would not take a shot that I considered marginal.
If I have a choice at a 100 yard shot or a 400 yard shot you can rest assured I will go for the best odds :)
 
If both are accurate enough, then why not go with the .270? I know it can't be recoil, as you also have a .338. What if you see a gigantor sized black bear? I dunno, I think the .270 is better. :)
 
Your right, both are sub MOA shooters... the .270WSM is a T-3 light but has a muzzle break and it is very modest recoil... it's hard to argue with case capacity... and we are shooting a very long field to the edge of a cedar bush with a creek and swampy area... :idea:
 
Huntsman said:
John Y Cannuck said:
Huntsman said:
How about the 30-30 :?:

Huntsman :)
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Ok funny guy.
. But it's hardly a long range number. It doesn't have the energy levels, or the speed to cleanly take big game.
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I don't make a habit of taking long shots,if the animal is too far I"ll just get closer,but hey,thats just the way I hunt :wink:

Huntsman :)
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I feel the same way, and hunt with the 30-30 much of the time anymore. Deer rarely offer themselves at longer ranges where I hunt anyway, and the big bang cartridges are superfluous.
 
Red you poor ol sot. Life is so cruel leaving you with all this stress and wonder :mrgreen: I'd probably take your 270 wsm. If I was so fortunate I'd probably take my 270. (weatherby) 8)

Good luck with it. Do keep us posted!
 
Either should work okay. Energy has its place in the decision but I think the construction of the bullet is even more im[portant. You did not mention which bullet you are planning to use in either rifle. For a truly long shot I would avoid too strongly constructed a bullet. I have taken whitetails and mulies out to the ranges you are considering with the old tried and true 30-06 using standard Hornady 165 boattails. No need to worry if they will expand at slower impact velocities way out there and I know they will also do the job if one appears at 50 yards. To me much of the so called advantages of magnum cartridges is negated by the need for stout bullets in close and a different construction when the range is increased. Shoot a standard round and be set for shots from here to there.
 
BIGREDD said:
such an easy decision...
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maybe for you... you got the .260 ... best of both worlds 8)
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If I had two identical rifles, one in 260, and one in 270 WSM, and I wanted a rifle for long range deer, I'd grab the 270WSM every time. this is easy. WSM is miles ahead of the little 25 for big bodied deer at long range.
 
Well you guys convinced me... 270WSM... I am wondering what you guys think about the 140 grain triple shock in .277... compared to the 140 grain accubond... on paper they are almost identical... the Barnes edges the Nosler by .001 in B/C :? has anyone here shot both through any calibre. :?: Would the Triple shock develop more pressure than the Accubond :?
 
a ballistic co-efficient has never killed a critter yet, and BC varies with elevation, humidity, barometric pressure, what you ate for breakfast, among dozens of other variables.

both bullets are capable of killing deer at ranges you cant even see deer with the naked eye, if placed well. there is the key, placement. :idea: put a bullet in the boilerroom and you'll be getting your hands dirty

PS - on paper the ballistics between the Accubond and TSX might be the same, but you can expect deeper penetration with the X. this is a moot point on deer unless you're shooting them in the ass.

in theory the TSX will develop more pressure being a solid copper bullet, but Ive found that they produce similar speeds (and thus pressure) as a regular bullet like an Interlock. same cant be said for a regular X (more pressure) or a XLC (less pressure).
 
I used to load 130gr X BT in my brother's and my .270 Win. The only long range shot was taken by my brother. It was an honest +300 yard shot (probably around 325). Muzzle velocity was a bit over 3150 fps. The deer was quartering away and feeding. He was a big bodied alpine dwelling Mule Deer. Don't know his weight, but he was big. The bullet entered the near side, traversed the chest cavity, exited by the off side shoulder, entered the neck, broke the neck, and exited behind his ear. He dropped dead at the shot. All in all I was quite impressed. I bet your wsm will give you equal velocity with the 140gr as I was getting with the 130. I can not imagine that it would be inadequate in any situation at the distances you mention.
 
Thanks fellas... I appreciate your input and experience, I have limited experience with the barnes bullets. I have had good results with accubonds and they are as good or better than any spitzer I have tried for accuracy.
But after seeing some of the groups that I have seen from the triple shocks I admit to being intrigued.
I am not wedded to the Accubond and if I can shoot flatter and more accurate I will use whatever bullet it takes.
In my limited experience shooting at the longer ranges I have found that MOA becomes a serious factor in the equation. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong in a bigger way at long range.
I realize that deer are not Elk and that either bullet will kill them with a vital's hit... but if I am faced with a long range shot I want to be confident that I have the best bullet available to me. :|
 
i no .50 bmg that would work nicely cook clean and quarter your animal lol jk.
i think a good gun to use would probly be the 270 wsm because im in for bigger is better
talk to ya all later
Riley
 
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