who can repair a trigger hanger Rem 581

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My Dad bought a Remington 581.

When it arrived in the mail, the little stud that hold the trigger on had broken off.

Anyone know a gunsmith that can fix it?
The seller had put in a clain with canada post and I need a estimate on what it would cost to repair it.
 
easy said:
I think you’re after the trigger pin.
It’s a simple spring pin you might find at a fastener store like SpaeNaur. Just need to know it’s diameter. Length you can file down.

Here’s a link to Numrich Gun parts and a 581 schematic.
They seem to have them in stock. You don’t need a gunsmith to replace it.

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/remington/rifles-rem/581
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It's not the roll pin that hold the trigger on, it's the stud that's on the action.
 
Pain in the butt job. Have to get the thing securely clamped in the proper position and silver braze it.
If you could find someone willing to do it, $100 would be a bargain.
 
... just to add... Canada Post will pay nothing... they will state "insufficiently packaged"... not their problem.
 
OP, your description is very vague of what you need fixed.

The 581 has a trigger group that is attached to the receiver by a pin in a stud on the receiver.

Is it the stud on the receiver that is broken???? or the the trigger group housing???

If it's the stud on the receiver and you don't have a capable local gunsmith, take the receiver and trigger group to a local welding shop, where they likely have a competent tradesman that can braze on a new piece of metal that you can shape "at home'' into a workable stud.

As tiriaq mentions, ugly job, not especially difficult but very time consuming.

Remingtion 581 rifles tend to shoot reasonably well but they aren't anything special. They're a lower end rifle with appx $300 value in excellent condition.

Is it worth spending $125+ to get it fixed by a smith or just doing the running around yourself to have some metal brazed on and doing the job yourself??

Personally, if the rifle were mine, I would fix it myself but I wouldn't do the job otherwise or if I had to pay someone to do it.
 
bearhunter said:
OP, your description is very vague of what you need fixed.

The 581 has a trigger group that is attached to the receiver by a pin in a stud on the receiver.

Is it the stud on the receiver that is broken???? or the the trigger group housing???

If it's the stud on the receiver and you don't have a capable local gunsmith, take the receiver and trigger group to a local welding shop, where they likely have a competent tradesman that can braze on a new piece of metal that you can shape "at home'' into a workable stud.

As tiriaq mentions, ugly job, not especially difficult but very time consuming.

Remingtion 581 rifles tend to shoot reasonably well but they aren't anything special. They're a lower end rifle with appx $300 value in excellent condition.

Is it worth spending $125+ to get it fixed by a smith or just doing the running around yourself to have some metal brazed on and doing the job yourself??

Personally, if the rifle were mine, I would fix it myself but I wouldn't do the job otherwise or if I had to pay someone to do it.
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Its the stud on the receiver. One thing though, the whole stud didn't break off, only the top of it.
Yeah, might be a good idea to take it to a machine shop. I could probably do the final shaping with files. Might get finacy when I try to drill a hole for the roll pin.

Going to try and try to post photos of the damage.
 
Broken stud is worse than detached. If an attempt is made to build it up with weld, it will likely fall off. It is induction brazed to the receiver.

Something else to think about - if the repair were to fail, and the lug were to fall off the receiver while the rifle is loaded, it is going to fire.
 
tiriaq said:
Broken stud is worse than detached. If an attempt is made to build it up with weld, it will likely fall off. It is induction brazed to the receiver.

Something else to think about - if the repair were to fail, and the lug were to fall off the receiver while the rifle is loaded, it is going to fire.
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Ok.
 
Heres the picture.
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Take it to a local welding shop and get them to build it up with weld, then take it home and go to work with a decent file to get the profile you need and drill a new hole for the retaining pin.

If as tiriaq says, it's brazed in place, then make up a new retention stud and take it to the weld shop to have brazed or silver soldered in place.

That rifle is nice and clean so whatever it costs for the weld job would be worth it and your labor is free.

You could also visit your neighbor Potashminer to walk you through it.
 
bearhunter said:
Take it to a local welding shop and get them to build it up with weld, then take it home and go to work with a decent file to get the profile you need and drill a new hole for the retaining pin.

That rifle is nice and clean so whatever it costs for the weld job would be worth it and your labor is free.

You could also visit your neighbor Potashminer to walk you through it.
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Yeah, probably going to be cheaper to do rather then ship to a gunsmith.
 
bearhunter said:
OP, your description is very vague of what you need fixed.

The 581 has a trigger group that is attached to the receiver by a pin in a stud on the receiver.

Is it the stud on the receiver that is broken???? or the the trigger group housing???

If it's the stud on the receiver and you don't have a capable local gunsmith, take the receiver and trigger group to a local welding shop, where they likely have a competent tradesman that can braze on a new piece of metal that you can shape "at home'' into a workable stud.

As tiriaq mentions, ugly job, not especially difficult but very time consuming.

Remingtion 581 rifles tend to shoot reasonably well but they aren't anything special. They're a lower end rifle with appx $300 value in excellent condition.

Is it worth spending $125+ to get it fixed by a smith or just doing the running around yourself to have some metal brazed on and doing the job yourself??

Personally, if the rifle were mine, I would fix it myself but I wouldn't do the job otherwise or if I had to pay someone to do it.
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I would suggest rather than a local welding/fabrication shop who might or might not have the proper equipment and skill; go to a tool and die shop; preferably a shop that builds and repairs Molds, they are very adept at both Tig and laser welding; high precision, minimal heat damage. And, yes, likely $100.00 or a bit more.
 
DANS40X said:
Remove & replace the stud.

Applying any heat/welding to build up the stud will cause issues.
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Bingo.

The fit of the stud with the hole for the retaining pin to secure the trigger mechanism correctly is critical. The job should be done by someone who understands what is involved.
An incorrect repair could result in a dangerous gun.
 
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