hometownhero
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Toon Town, Sk
Pretty much what I did. Now I have a whole room of stuff.
Who else has changed their ammo buying habits lately?
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Pretty much what I did. Now I have a whole room of stuff.
- Location
- West Quebec
Are they trying the "JUST IN TIME" supply management that does not work or is there something else at work
The biggest problem I see with ammo buying is because of the spotty supply it forces you into a hoarding mentality and instead of buying the one box you need to buy 3 when you can. This then causes the spotty supply and the cycle begins again.
Finally I am seeing 22lr and 9mm regularly in stock at my local gunshop thou not at the prices I like.
The other effect is on what rifles I am prepared to buy now, I been wanting to buy a SMLE for quite a while, but can not bring myself to buy a rifle where every time I pull the trigger $1.50-$2.00 goes up in smoke.
Finally I am seeing 22lr and 9mm regularly in stock at my local gunshop thou not at the prices I like.
The other effect is on what rifles I am prepared to buy now, I been wanting to buy a SMLE for quite a while, but can not bring myself to buy a rifle where every time I pull the trigger $1.50-$2.00 goes up in smoke.
blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- A blue part of Ontario
My philosophy has always been the same: I buy ammo whenever I see it for a good price (below average). Doesnt matter it its the middle of February or the end of September. Its carried me through the rough times, and ensures I'll never not have at least a box of my favourite rifle load when I leave for a hunt.
In terms of .22LR, I only had a bolt action until the the last couple years. Prior to that I knew I was getting a semi eventually so I bought a variety of bricks of different brands and types so I'd have lots to try out. Ive been OK, going through that pile, and havent had to pay current prices yet (most ive paid was $32/500).
In terms of .22LR, I only had a bolt action until the the last couple years. Prior to that I knew I was getting a semi eventually so I bought a variety of bricks of different brands and types so I'd have lots to try out. Ive been OK, going through that pile, and havent had to pay current prices yet (most ive paid was $32/500).
Same here. most of my 22LR was $30/500 (5000 rounds) 22 Mag $15/50 (2000 rounds) Shotgun shells $12 to $14/25 for 3" steel (1500 rounds) and all my centerfire is reloads. This should last me about 2 years. If I see a good deal I'll buy more, but I'm not going to change my shooting habits as I have plenty.
I think there is alot more people hoarding than people admit.
Those loud people who whine and got caught with their pants down Im guessing are the minority
They still like to be heard and hate it when they see prices over $40 a brick and peoples stashes.
Those loud people who whine and got caught with their pants down Im guessing are the minority
They still like to be heard and hate it when they see prices over $40 a brick and peoples stashes.
I've never really ever run into where I could not purchase some .22 ammo, I'm talking bare shelves where ever I go and have to call off the gopher hunt for the day, problem is can never find the ammo I want or what my guns like so years back I stocked up on the CCI I liked when I had the chance as couldn't find them when I needed some.
Now I have a couple guns that love Rem subs, don't have a huge supply and last place I saw wanted $8/50 twice what they were last year so I passed, if I could go back now I likely would have hoarded a case when I had the chance, for now I'll just shoot larger groups, gophers aren't that small.
Now I have a couple guns that love Rem subs, don't have a huge supply and last place I saw wanted $8/50 twice what they were last year so I passed, if I could go back now I likely would have hoarded a case when I had the chance, for now I'll just shoot larger groups, gophers aren't that small.
Yes, there is some hoarding going on, but I seriously doubt that is the reason for the shortage we have here north of the border.
A couple years ago I was looking for a semi-auto 10/22 and couldn't find one for the life of me, LGS told me they were a year back ordered because the manufacturer couldn't keep up with demand and all the online stores I deal with were out of stock. At the same time .223 prices were starting to climb and many people I know were buying .22 conversion kits and converting their AR-15's over to shoot the .22 Calibre round because it was cheaper.
Now, 10/22's are plentiful again and still selling well, so we have more .22 firearms on the market that need ammo. Many former .223 shooters are now shooting .22 so demand for .22 rounds has gone up. Granted manufacturers are trying but at this time they are unable to keep up with demand (or so we're being told).
Many people with 10/22's like to have "Fun" and will go through a lot more Ammo in a day then someone with a .22 bolt or lever action.
So when you have an increase in .22 shooters, firearms that eat more ammo then in the past it doesn't take much before Ammo stocks run low and the manufacturers scramble to meet the new demand. A few people with 20K or 30K rounds squirrelled away aren't going to make a big difference.
Give it time and the market will level off and .22 will be plentiful again, i doubt prices will come down much, if at all. In time things will return to normal.
Lol you think its just a few people. I think its half the shooting community.
Guess we'll see if prices drop.
My guess is 6 cents a round for bulk is gone.
I thought mini mag at 7.5 cents was bad. Not anymore. If bulk is 8-10 cents, what will CCI be?
$8 for 50, 1)$16 for mini mag brick.
If I was a betting man, when store do get mini mag back in and not these special edition junk, Im guessing a price increase is in order.
Guess we'll see if prices drop.
My guess is 6 cents a round for bulk is gone.
I thought mini mag at 7.5 cents was bad. Not anymore. If bulk is 8-10 cents, what will CCI be?
$8 for 50, 1)$16 for mini mag brick.
If I was a betting man, when store do get mini mag back in and not these special edition junk, Im guessing a price increase is in order.
When I was a kid, things were different ... - I would be feeling pretty high when I had a half-box of .22 shells for groundhogs. Once, a fellow came from the city who had two boxes of fifty - and we shot them all - it made me feel a little sick to have wasted so much good ammo. It sounds corny or something - but memories establish our normals and our kids and grand kids will remember what we do now.
Now, we have so much money - we shoot so much - wasting ammo is the new drunk. Sure - we can afford it - but...
Now, we have so much money - we shoot so much - wasting ammo is the new drunk. Sure - we can afford it - but...
i highly doubt that CTC is gouging. the pricing is almost completely automated. they set their given markup on a product within certain rules and away they go. its the cost to import which has gone up.
that being said, im surprised that a company hasnt decided to open a huge factory in canada. with the dollar the way it is (and the canadian government said they want to keep it at where it is now), it would be worthwhile to import to the US. material resources for bullets are also more widely available in canada than they are in the US. having a new factory up here churning out ammo would help canadians as well as americans greatly. I think the main issue is that ammo companies have been reluctant to expand their capacity to what is needed. we need new factories built not an increase in production yields. it seems that they are afraid to over expand (like the auto industry did). who knows how many more years at the current demand it will be before they decide to smarten up.
a long time member at my range has been a snowbird for about 20 years now. he was saying that someone he knew who worked for CCI actually quit because the pressure to do overtime was too high. they were/are working their employees to the bone. opening factories in new areas would solve both problems.
CTC is absolutely gouging people. I literally stopped going to Canadian Tire because they raised their prices so much on .22lr. I used to be in their store 3+ times per week even if it was just to look around... I told myself if they fixed their prices in the future that I'd consider going back but their prices have been raised 3-5 times depending on the product.
They want $11 per 50rd box of rem subsonic.
Pricing on most of their 22lr has gone up 50% in under 1 year.
They want $11 per 50rd box of rem subsonic.
Pricing on most of their 22lr has gone up 50% in under 1 year.
Well, when I asked my local store owner (Whitehorse, YT) about it I was told very concisely that because they can't keep stock they chose to raise prices because that's what businesses do in a capitalist economy. Yes, I was openly told by the owner that their price increases were due to shortages and not from a significant price increase from suppliers. I posted sometime last fall about this shortly after the conversation took place. I'd like to add that I'm not complaining about capitalism but rather that price jumps like this drive away business when people have other options.
Take it or leave it, you act as though I think they're conspiring against us. I simply think they made a poor business decision and since this capitalist economy works two ways, I choose not to support them (at all).
I also spent some time speaking with the assistant manager regarding the concerns I had. If the .22lr is coming from the company and wasn't sourced by the individual store then the prices are set by CTC and not the store owner. Furthering that point, CTC can import or purchase through many of the wholesalers/distributors. They can (and do) look for good pricing like anyone else. This was also discussed (more than once on different days/weeks).
I actually had several great conversations with the owner and assistant manager over time... One example item that I convinced them to reprice was their henry AR7. It was $499.95 for several months at my local CT but that price was insane and set by the corporation because that's where they were purchased. After bringing in print outs from several competing retailers that showed their price was significantly lower, they dropped their price down to around $349? (Haven't been in there in a while now) and shortly after they went on sale for $270. They called me to let me know about the sale and I bought two.
Summary: I took the owner + assistant manager (have known them both through the store for 5+ years) at their word when they both told me the same thing on the same day within a couple minutes of each other on opposite ends of the store. I guess there is a very slight chance they could have had a discussion regarding the price of 22lr at the start of the day but I really doubt it.
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Picked up some 17HMR on Monday night from CT. CCI and federal were 16.99 and 17.99. Now prices for same ammo is $20.49 and 19.99.
Grabbed 3 boxes of Hornady 17hmr at Burlington CT last night and don't see it on their website so cant confirm price is the same or on its way up too.
Grabbed 3 boxes of Hornady 17hmr at Burlington CT last night and don't see it on their website so cant confirm price is the same or on its way up too.
