Who hunts with a peep?

Stefan

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Finally got out to try my new (to me) 80's vintage .270 7600 that I picked up from a fellow gunnut. The gun came with a peep already mounted. I've never hunted or even shot with a peep but thought I'd try it out before scoping the gun. Am I ever glad I did. handiest rifle I've ever shot. No plans to scope it anymore. Anyone else hunt with a peep?



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Stef
 
Every so often I hunt predators with a peep on my mini 14. I used to use peeps exclusively for predators - but my eyes aint what they used to be.

I think if your eyes can do it, they are the way to go.
 
I have a williams peep on my circa 1950 Marlin 30 30. I had to install a higher front sight but it was worth it. a very handy short range brush gun. very quick to centre on target

I have the exact same gun. 1950 336RC with a williams peep and a tall front sight. i put a skinner blade up front on mine, and is it ever accurate and fast handling.
 
Used them for years. About the last five or so I've been sighting all rifles and pistols with both eyes open and it works super great. If you haven't tried it with your apertures sights, give it a go. If you stick with it you'll be amazed.
 
I've been using a William's aperture sight on my '94 in .307 for 12 years now. As long as the eyes hold out it'll stay. I have a few on some .22's as well.

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I pretty much only hunt big game with a peep. I'm a milsurp guy primarily, so using peeps is pretty normal and I am used to it. Love the low weight and generally handiness of a scope free rifle for dogging in the bush.

My current go rifle is a Savage Scout. I just use the William's WGRS peep that came with it. I replaced the front bead with a blade (more milsurp type sight picture). The WGRS is a pain to zero but once it's there it's good for the season.

I also installed a peep on my Swede in 9.3x57. Longest successful shot on a deer was about 200 yards. That was the third of the day for me.
 
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Although no one has brought it up yet and despite the fact that the term "peep sight" is often used to identify any aperture sight, there is a difference between a peep sight and a ghost ring. While the peep sight might be better on the rifle range, the ghost ring is a better general purpose sight, useful for a number of shooting genres when the combination of speed and accuracy is advantageous. So what is the difference? The peep is often encountered with a thick rim or a disk with a small aperture while the ghost ring has a thin rim and a large aperture, sometimes as large as a quarter inch. When the marksman aims with a ghost ring, once his sight picture is acquired, he pulls his focus to the front sight, his target blurs and the ghost ring "ghosts" out of his vision and sometimes disappears all together, leaving nothing to interfere with his focus on that front sight. Thus the ghost ring is very fast and practical shooting proves it gives up little to the conventional peep sight in terms of practical field accuracy, yet gains much in speed and the allowance of tracking a moving target.

IMHO, the ghost ring is at its best when combined with a rectangular front sight. I don't much like bead front sights, they are easily damaged, and provide no index of elevation. Neither do I like day glow orange sights or fiber optic sights as these like the bead do not provide a sharp outline of the sight, are seldom encountered with a flat top, and seem to be prone to damage. The rectangular sight once understood, provides a degree of accuracy to the marksman that is not unlike the scope's cross-hair. The wide flat top takes the place of the horizontal cross hair and the center of the post, which is fairly easy for the human eye to locate, provides the vertical. For those who are concerned about having sufficient contrast between the sight and the target, consider a brass front sight or a front sight with a brass face insert. A brass front sight has to be used to be appreciated in that it appears black on a light back ground and white on a dark back ground.

How accurate can the ghost ring and rectangular front sight be? Well when shooting my ZG-47 .30/06 with a NECG peep opened up to a ghost ring and a rectangular post front sight I've shot numerous MOA groups . . . some out to 300 yards from slung up prone, while lying in a snow drift! This was done with my regular practice loads consisting of 180 gr bulk bullets, mixed brass, magnum primers and what ever powder I had an excess of at the time of loading, it could be as fast as 3031 or as slow as 760 or 4350. While I don't claim to be able to produce such groups on demand, when it happens with irons it feels pretty good. But more importantly it does show what can be accomplished with a good set of irons, and I am by no means am anything more than a competent marksman.

All of my our regular carry long guns, that is our .30/06s, my Brno 602, and my 12 ga all have ghost ring and rectangular post sights. The ghost ring on the 602 is a back-up to the scout scope. Some of the rifles that I have relegated to the toy department: such as a beat up (when I got it) Winchester M-94 NWT Commererative .30/30, a Chinese M-14, and a M-54 Winchester in .270 also have ghost rings. Last year I managed to pick up a gorgeous .22 rimfire bolt gun, one that I have been looking for for 30 years a Unique Dioptra T bolt action. I had intended to put a ghost ring on it, but the comb is too high, and I refuse to cut away any of the beautiful walnut when scoping it solves the sight height problem. Needless to say, I am a fan of aperture sights in general and ghost rings in particular.
 
True Boomer about "peep sight and a ghost ring" but most older Peeps (slang term) are both. All my 1899 Savs I hunt with & my 308 have a peep. The all have a screw out apetures that effectively converts them from a peep for range work to a Ghost ring for hunting!
There's a reason most 100 yr old guns carryed a Reciever Site, why or how the hunting comunity got away from them I don't know, I suppose in a febile effort to keep up with the times & convert to a scope :rolleyes: NOT that a proper 1X scope can't do the job but at the expense of simplicity & bulk.

I know of not a single person that has went back to open irons once they tried a good Reciever site.
 
I think that a true "peep" sight is the best. IMHO of course.
I use a Williams on a 30-30 and a New England on a 375 HH.

Will be using one for this grizzly this fall.:)
 
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