Who is buying a Type81?
- Thread starter Alfonso
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If I read his post correctly he supports removing hurdles and encourages the government to support small and new businesses. Whether he has $1 million or not is irrelevant. Do the Chinese always pay those whose products they knock off. Should be fair game to knock off their product, no?
I am a private person, so this doesn't apply to me
I am talking about industry, in general
there is money floating around-see above (resources/ per capita) but:
1. no support from government-just obstacles
2. money wasted on some sort of BS like "women's studies"
3. there is kickstarter.com etc available to publicly fund projects, but ppl involved into manufacturing don't even bother a bit about this, because: either lack of ideas/ lack of technology/ knowledge or lack of will or both... also hoping for imports from big brother like USA/ China/ Russia
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Try reading again....PEOPLE do not have the skills to hit paper at 100m with irons today due to lack of discipline. Doesn't matter how accurate a rifle is if the slob behind it can't shoot.
Your lack of experience is biblical.
Wow, this is one of those never ending threads I won't read all of, so please forgive me if I repeat something. Anyway, does anybody else think that Parkerizing job for the photos look like s@#t? I'm not shelling out for something that doesn't, at least, try and reproduce the original finish.
SquidMeister
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finished product will not be parkerized. it will be blued.
this discussion leads to nowhere, for sure, if some fundamental Questions are not answered:
1. Why do we have this situation?
2. Why Canada cannot produce such rifle and many other high demand rifles (TNW PPSH43-like 7.62x25, for example)?
3. Why there is still no a "Firearm Party of Canada" = "Freedom Party of Canada", as possessing firearms is a fundamental right, moreover, carrying a firearm is a fundamental right, which makes people equal. Instead of proactive lobby and approach, including party organization, we are just sitting and waiting for the next RCMP interpretation of the law as they wish, or even worse-stricter laws to be created by globalistic pseudo-humanistic liberalists, who are dreaming to ban all real freedom, have humans as a-###ual slave-robots, with stripe codes and e-cheaps all over your body... (as was predicted by many philosophers, books and movies, "Experiment Belko"-the latest)
that's too
mass production drops the price
to make this happen , there must be investments, including public kickstarter-like, otherwise, we'll never move things beyond the critical point
for example, there could be some sort of a "universal firearm production company" (C), which may use a kickstarter investment as a strategy to manufacture "rifle on demand" (c)
this should be possible ... especially, with 3D-printing, many non-critical parts may be just printed and critical ones-machined from steel/ aluminum
The production starts as soon as the critical investment mass is reached
I better pay to a Canadian company, than to God knows whom, BUT BUT-price should be reasonable/ competitive
This will work better than paying same money for miracle "pre-orders" for companies, which are on Mars somewhere
Take this-it's free: "Rifle on demand" or "universal firearm production company"
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BadLieutenant
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Who thought Tavor TAR-21 rifles would sell between $1500 and $1800 in the EE a few months ago when they were fetching close to $3000. It is called offer and demand �� When something even better than the type 81 comes up (non restricted 7.62 X 39 taking STANAG pistol mags for $1000 ) All those VZ58 will sell for cheap ����
Not to go too far off topic, but I submit you need to call a few more smiths. For example, Gunco in Ottawa would likely do that work. I suspect it's more a question of whether you would pay for a "one-off". It will not be as cheap as buying from a company set up for series manufacture.
There is no intellectual property restriction on a Type 81. The challenge would be to reverse-engineer it sufficiently to make a nice copy. That would be costly up front.
BadLieutenant
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The M10X would be more likely be around 2000$ and if I remember correctly was using AK mags
The Type 81 would never appeal to me since it's another platform that is 5 rounds per mag.
I have a Mini 14..... but that is the only rifle I will own that cannot take pistol mags
Reverse eng. is not my field, but, maybe with industrial 3D scanner availability it would be not that expensive
As to 7.62x25 tt33 extended barrel-it was my attempt to create something more or less in the niche of PPSH43
Gunco.. hm, I didn't talk to them, but greatly appreciate your advice. I was ready to pay up to 800-1000$ for that barrel, and then dress it into pistol to carbine stock.. I know... I know it will be still restricted
the problem Hill + Mac had with the STG 44 was there was never a original pattern for them to copy. Each gun during WW2 was tweeked to work . then sent to the front
So you could be trying to reverse engineer from a bad copy. And that doesn't work well
Every slope or angle makes a huge difference on trying to make the gun function 100%
So you could be trying to reverse engineer from a bad copy. And that doesn't work well
Every slope or angle makes a huge difference on trying to make the gun function 100%
